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Kyle RIttenhouse, who was found Not Guilty in the shooting deaths of two men in Kenosha is NOT in Arizona State University.

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/brief/rit ... ona-state/

Kyle Rittenhouse, who testified last month at his homicide trial that he was a student studying nursing at Arizona State University, is no longer enrolled at the school, according to a report from the Phoenix New Times.

Rittenhouse, who was found not guilty on self-defense grounds earlier this month for shooting and killing two people and wounding of a third during protests in Kenosha in August 2020, said in an interview with Tucker Carlson on Fox News that he planned to attend classes on campus. After his testimony, ASU said he was a non-degree student enrolled in classes at the school.

A number of student groups on campus mounted protests against Rittenhouse’s enrollment at the university, which is one of the largest in the state.

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marindem01 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:05 pm Kyle RIttenhouse, who was found Not Guilty in the shooting deaths of two men in Kenosha is NOT in Arizona State University.

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/brief/rit ... ona-state/

Kyle Rittenhouse, who testified last month at his homicide trial that he was a student studying nursing at Arizona State University, is no longer enrolled at the school, according to a report from the Phoenix New Times.

Rittenhouse, who was found not guilty on self-defense grounds earlier this month for shooting and killing two people and wounding of a third during protests in Kenosha in August 2020, said in an interview with Tucker Carlson on Fox News that he planned to attend classes on campus. After his testimony, ASU said he was a non-degree student enrolled in classes at the school.

A number of student groups on campus mounted protests against Rittenhouse’s enrollment at the university, which is one of the largest in the state.

Wisconsin Examiner is part of States Newsroom, a network of news bureaus supported by grants and a coalition of donors as a 501c(3) public charity. Wisconsin Examiner maintains editorial independence.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:34 pmbye
Rittenhoouse is about to find that his kind of celebrity is NOT welcome in Academia, much less in the medical establishment.
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marindem01 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:58 pm Rittenhoouse is about to find that his kind of celebrity is NOT welcome in Academia, much less in the medical establishment.
I know a couple people who teach at ASU. They have not opined on this topic tmk, but one thing is for sure, students and professors do not want another WN element on campus, especially not during a pandemic.

I'm actually suprised this creepy little man acknowledged the reports that he was enrolled there.

And no doubt: some outfit like Liberty U. or this ridiculous new University of Antiwoke Austin or JoeMemphis's alma mater Bell Buckle Bible College will gladly give him a full ride, and their Development departments wiill fundraise around it.

TPUSA and that nazi Jack Posobiec will pay for it and neonazi mama will go set up a gofundme to which the cops will once again trip all over themselves to contribute to.

Kyle Rittenhouse is a far-right cash cow. For now, anyway. Like every other white con in this country, he is being exploited.
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ProfX wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:03 am Look, Ro. may have got nailed on statutory for having sex with a 15 year old girl that consented, the law says there consent is impossible.
The age of consent in South Carolina is 16. (It's 18 in California because of perverts like Glennfs.)

Glennfs, a guy who raped a 15 year old when he was 18, is in the same boat as this person he is trying to condemn.

If there is a pedophile at RFL, it's Glennfs, who even goes around boasting that he married the victim.

Rape and incest is apparently a big part of their culture, I guess. So no wonder this guy is so defensive of that rapist Strom Thurmond, and no wonder so many conservative white males are so adamantly opposed to abortion allowances for the people they victimize via their incest and rape.

They do not believe in physical autonomy for cis women and they sure AF do not believe in physical autonomy for trans women.
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bradman wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:36 am [bold] i keep reading that. It kinda makes it sound like witnesses testified that Rittenhouse had been pointing the gun at demonstrators thru out the night. When in fact, it sounds like the only "gun pointing" Rittenhouse did started from a grainy drone footage clip that only started when Rosenbaum confronted Rittenhouse on the corner of the used car lot.


https://www.npr.org/2021/11/19/10574223 ... -to-acquit


On the stand, or off the stand, i have yet to find anything about witnesses saying Rittenhouse had been pointing the gun at demonstrators thru out the night.
It’s possible, even probable, that you and I are the only two who actually know the fine details and the actual evidence presented.
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Joseph Rosenbaum.

“ Residents say Joseph Rosenbaum, who was the first man Kyle Rittenhouse fatally shot in self-defense would be alive today if justice has been served in Pima County, Arizona. On Friday, a Kenosha, Wisconsin jury found Rittenhouse not guilty of killing Rosenbaum, who had been chasing Rittenhouse before the teenager shot in self-defense.

According to the court testimony, Rittenhouse said that he acted in self-defense after Rosenbaum threatened to kill him and tried to grab his gun. However, say Pima County residents, Rittenhouse would have never found himself in a position where he had to defend himself from a violent child molester had the Pima County Attorney’s Office done its job and kept Rosenbaum locked up.

Rosenbaum had multiple convictions in Pima County, spending just over 14 years in prison. He served the first 10 years on his first rape charge. However, for the two other rape charges he only received sentences of 30 months.

WRN Investigates reported that Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old.”

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/202 ... f-defense/

Also, not a particularly good prison record.

https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections. ... ?ID=172556
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:13 pm Joseph Rosenbaum.

“ Residents say Joseph Rosenbaum, who was the first man Kyle Rittenhouse fatally shot in self-defense would be alive today if justice has been served in Pima County, Arizona. On Friday, a Kenosha, Wisconsin jury found Rittenhouse not guilty of killing Rosenbaum, who had been chasing Rittenhouse before the teenager shot in self-defense.

According to the court testimony, Rittenhouse said that he acted in self-defense after Rosenbaum threatened to kill him and tried to grab his gun. However, say Pima County residents, Rittenhouse would have never found himself in a position where he had to defend himself from a violent child molester had the Pima County Attorney’s Office done its job and kept Rosenbaum locked up.

Rosenbaum had multiple convictions in Pima County, spending just over 14 years in prison. He served the first 10 years on his first rape charge. However, for the two other rape charges he only received sentences of 30 months.

WRN Investigates reported that Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old.”

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/202 ... f-defense/

Also, not a particularly good prison record.

https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections. ... ?ID=172556
Liberals all deserve to die, right?

Rittenhouse knew when he killed him!

But of course you couldn't use anything from Rittenhouse's past in court.
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:13 pm WRN Investigates reported that Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old.”
Ok. He was a real pedophile. Thank you for actually documenting the record, and not just throwing vague allegations.

That said, and he clearly was not a prince of a human being, glenn's original post seemed to imply his attack on Ri. was pedophilic.

BTW, though, let me know when you find the circumstances of why H. attacked his brother and sister. (Maybe also the sentences.) I still think calling him a "career violent criminal" isn't exactly correct, but again perhaps the details there will help.

P.S. AFAIK, nobody's shown G. had any priors.

I didn't watch the trial. I don't know of any place you could watch day-in-day-out. Maybe CourtTV? Somewhere on youtube? Do I know everything presented in the courtroom? Nah. Never said I did. I admit making conclusions based on what I know and I said perhaps the jury had information that I didn't. However, I kind of think if they saw information and data that exists in time and space, it is knowable.

We both know Ro.'s criminal history was ruled inadmissible by the judge. So I'm glad we all know it, but it was not told to the jury. I think there is also every reason to believe Ri. could not have known it in their confrontation. It's not like he knew he was taking out a pedophile ...

I read articles and saw coverage on the trial. In what I guess we could call the "mainstream media" and that included one of your favorite outlets, PBS and NPR....
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:13 pm Joseph Rosenbaum.

“ Residents say Joseph Rosenbaum, who was the first man Kyle Rittenhouse fatally shot in self-defense would be alive today if justice has been served in Pima County, Arizona. On Friday, a Kenosha, Wisconsin jury found Rittenhouse not guilty of killing Rosenbaum, who had been chasing Rittenhouse before the teenager shot in self-defense.

According to the court testimony, Rittenhouse said that he acted in self-defense after Rosenbaum threatened to kill him and tried to grab his gun. However, say Pima County residents, Rittenhouse would have never found himself in a position where he had to defend himself from a violent child molester had the Pima County Attorney’s Office done its job and kept Rosenbaum locked up.

Rosenbaum had multiple convictions in Pima County, spending just over 14 years in prison. He served the first 10 years on his first rape charge. However, for the two other rape charges he only received sentences of 30 months.

WRN Investigates reported that Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old.”

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/202 ... f-defense/

Also, not a particularly good prison record.

https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections. ... ?ID=172556
Keep in mind, Rosenbaum's past record was ruled inadmissible by the Judge. As was Rittenhouse's past discretions.
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:10 pm It’s possible, even probable, that you and I are the only two who actually know the fine details and the actual evidence presented.
Left or right, i don't like facts being distorted.
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So, I retract earlier statement. I like Snopes as a source: they are thorough.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/ ... s-records/

Yes, Ro. had a pedophilic criminal history. You can decide if this is relevant.

[from the above]
For example, yes, at age 19, Rosenbaum was sentenced to prison for sexually abusing five children — all boys between the ages of 9 and 11 — in Arizona’s Pima County in early 2002, according to his case file obtained via a public records request by Snopes.

The documents said Rosenbaum was temporarily living with the boys’ parents after his mother had kicked him out for disobeying her rules about one month earlier. Over the course of his weeks-long stay, Rosenbaum molested the boys, showed them porn, and performed oral sex on them, among other offenses, the documents showed. He was sentenced to prison for roughly 15 years, and authorities believed at the time “his risk to recidivate being of great concern to the community” considering the victims’ gender and age. (Let us note here: The records included an interview with Rosenbaum in which he said his stepfather sexually abused him and his brother on an almost daily basis when he was a preteen.)
[snip][end]

G. had a minor prior criminal history. Misdemeanors. Armed while intoxicated. Disobeying police and making loud noise. OK, clearly Al Capone. :roll: There are sites claiming he was convicted of armed burglary. That is false.

Let's turn to H.

[from the above again]
Next, we analyzed criminal records involving Huber, and determined it also accurate to state he was charged with domestic abuse. We uncovered a Kenosha County criminal complaint that outlined his first serious run-in with law enforcement, in December 2012. And per that complaint, Huber, who was 18 years old at the time, threatened his brother and grandmother at their home with a knife, choked the brother, and demanded that they follow his orders. The complaint said the brother wanted to take Huber to a hospital, apparently for emergency mental health help, but Huber resisted. In the end, he was charged with strangulation and suffocation and false imprisonment, both of which are felony crimes.

On another occasion, about three years later, Huber paid a roughly $150 citation or possessing drug paraphernalia, court records showed. Then, in 2018, Huber was charged with disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor offense, after a fight with his sister at their house, per a criminal complaint by Kenosha prosecutors.
[snip][end]

So, to reiterate: looks like he kicked his sister, ruled a misdemeanor.
Yes he strangled the brother, looks like a mental health crisis, that was a felony crime and conviction.

Hmm. Distorting the facts? Does that really make H. "a career violent criminal" ... :roll:
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ProfX wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:13 pm So, I retract earlier statement. I like Snopes as a source: they are thorough.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/ ... s-records/

Yes, Ro. had a pedophilic criminal history. You can decide if this is relevant.

[from the above]
For example, yes, at age 19, Rosenbaum was sentenced to prison for sexually abusing five children — all boys between the ages of 9 and 11 — in Arizona’s Pima County in early 2002, according to his case file obtained via a public records request by Snopes.

The documents said Rosenbaum was temporarily living with the boys’ parents after his mother had kicked him out for disobeying her rules about one month earlier. Over the course of his weeks-long stay, Rosenbaum molested the boys, showed them porn, and performed oral sex on them, among other offenses, the documents showed. He was sentenced to prison for roughly 15 years, and authorities believed at the time “his risk to recidivate being of great concern to the community” considering the victims’ gender and age. (Let us note here: The records included an interview with Rosenbaum in which he said his stepfather sexually abused him and his brother on an almost daily basis when he was a preteen.)
[snip][end]

G. had a minor prior criminal history. Misdemeanors. Armed while intoxicated. Disobeying police and making loud noise. OK, clearly Al Capone. :roll: There are sites claiming he was convicted of armed burglary. That is false.

Let's turn to H.

[from the above again]
Next, we analyzed criminal records involving Huber, and determined it also accurate to state he was charged with domestic abuse. We uncovered a Kenosha County criminal complaint that outlined his first serious run-in with law enforcement, in December 2012. And per that complaint, Huber, who was 18 years old at the time, threatened his brother and grandmother at their home with a knife, choked the brother, and demanded that they follow his orders. The complaint said the brother wanted to take Huber to a hospital, apparently for emergency mental health help, but Huber resisted. In the end, he was charged with strangulation and suffocation and false imprisonment, both of which are felony crimes.

On another occasion, about three years later, Huber paid a roughly $150 citation or possessing drug paraphernalia, court records showed. Then, in 2018, Huber was charged with disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor offense, after a fight with his sister at their house, per a criminal complaint by Kenosha prosecutors.
[snip][end]

So, to reiterate: looks like he kicked his sister, ruled a misdemeanor.
Yes he strangled the brother, looks like a mental health crisis, that was a felony crime and conviction.

Hmm. Distorting the facts? Does that really make H. "a career violent criminal" ... :roll:
One ohe only things relevant about Rosenbaum is if he ever received proper help.

You can put a million health people in he field but it'll do no good if they don't receive proper care after that.
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ProfX wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:13 pm So, I retract earlier statement. I like Snopes as a source: they are thorough.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/ ... s-records/

Yes, Ro. had a pedophilic criminal history. You can decide if this is relevant.

[from the above]
For example, yes, at age 19, Rosenbaum was sentenced to prison for sexually abusing five children — all boys between the ages of 9 and 11 — in Arizona’s Pima County in early 2002, according to his case file obtained via a public records request by Snopes.

The documents said Rosenbaum was temporarily living with the boys’ parents after his mother had kicked him out for disobeying her rules about one month earlier. Over the course of his weeks-long stay, Rosenbaum molested the boys, showed them porn, and performed oral sex on them, among other offenses, the documents showed. He was sentenced to prison for roughly 15 years, and authorities believed at the time “his risk to recidivate being of great concern to the community” considering the victims’ gender and age. (Let us note here: The records included an interview with Rosenbaum in which he said his stepfather sexually abused him and his brother on an almost daily basis when he was a preteen.)
[snip][end]

G. had a minor prior criminal history. Misdemeanors. Armed while intoxicated. Disobeying police and making loud noise. OK, clearly Al Capone. :roll: There are sites claiming he was convicted of armed burglary. That is false.

Let's turn to H.

[from the above again]
Next, we analyzed criminal records involving Huber, and determined it also accurate to state he was charged with domestic abuse. We uncovered a Kenosha County criminal complaint that outlined his first serious run-in with law enforcement, in December 2012. And per that complaint, Huber, who was 18 years old at the time, threatened his brother and grandmother at their home with a knife, choked the brother, and demanded that they follow his orders. The complaint said the brother wanted to take Huber to a hospital, apparently for emergency mental health help, but Huber resisted. In the end, he was charged with strangulation and suffocation and false imprisonment, both of which are felony crimes.

On another occasion, about three years later, Huber paid a roughly $150 citation or possessing drug paraphernalia, court records showed. Then, in 2018, Huber was charged with disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor offense, after a fight with his sister at their house, per a criminal complaint by Kenosha prosecutors.
[snip][end]

So, to reiterate: looks like he kicked his sister, ruled a misdemeanor.
Yes he strangled the brother, looks like a mental health crisis, that was a felony crime and conviction.

Hmm. Distorting the facts? Does that really make H. "a career violent criminal" ... :roll:
The only reason rapists of 15 year old girls like Glennfs even venture to broach this topic is to rationalize vigilante justice.

His is the same lynchmob mentality that sanctioned the vigilante murders of rapists and pedophiles, real and perceived, at the hands of extremist conservative confederates like Kyle Rittenhouse.
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bradman wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:19 pm One ohe only things relevant about Rosenbaum is if he ever received proper help.
:? that's not at all relevant to anything regarding WN Boy murdering him. It's a separate, unrelated issue.
You can put a million health people in he field but it'll do no good if they don't receive proper care after that.
All you're doing is sanctioning centuries of murderous white-conservative vigilantism, and facilitating it into the present like the dutiful dupe you are.

You guys don't get to run around murdering anyone you see protesting police brutality, no matter how many years it's been drilled into your thick skulls that it's your "right" and "liberty" and "freedom" to do so.

But then, you're such a dishonest person, you don't even have the integrity a known conservative rightwing sockpuppet has to acknowledge your longterm support for this WN, from day one.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:25 pm You guys don't get to run around murdering anyone you see protesting police brutality, no matter how many years it's been drilled into your thick skulls that it's your "right" and "liberty" and "freedom" to do so.

But then, you're such a dishonest person, you don't even have the integrity a known conservative rightwing sockpuppet has to acknowledge your longterm support for this WN, from day one.
Wow! Gaslight.

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sam lefthand wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:47 pm Wow! Gaslight.

:shock:
No . The victim's records have nothing to do with the case. It's the way the right always does things - pretend that the victim had it coming. That's what you guys are doing here with Rittenhouse's victims. Same thing they did with George Floyd.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:49 pm No . The victim's records have nothing to do with the case. It's the way the right always does things - pretend that the victim had it coming. That's what you guys are doing here with Rittenhouse's victims. Same thing they did with George Floyd.
No GoUnion. That horrid awful irrational mess was addressed directly at Bradman.

:shock:

Bradman is clearly the victim of Carmen's brutal gas lighting assault upon his very person.

:o

And then you show up with a gas lantern.
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sam lefthand wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:20 pm No GoUnion. That horrid awful irrational mess was addressed directly at Bradman.

:shock:

Bradman is clearly the victim of Carmen's brutal gas lighting assault upon his very person.
Bradman can take care of himself. You just want to attack Carmen.

Look in the mirror. You're projecting.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:23 pm Bradman can take care of himself. You just want to attack Carmen.

Look in the mirror. You're projecting.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:23 pm Bradman can take care of himself. You just want to attack Carmen.

Look in the mirror. You're projecting.
The people you talk to here, Gounion, are going to stand by and say nothing and do nothing WHEN, not if, MAGA starts killing innocent people like they tried to do on January 6.

I am glad you and others are able to talk to them, because I cant. I do learn though, but really there isnt much more to learn about them. They have defended the worst human behavour and will continue to do so.
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bradman wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:19 pm One ohe only things relevant about Rosenbaum is if he ever received proper help.

You can put a million health people in he field but it'll do no good if they don't receive proper care after that.
ohe? Where the hell did i come up with that? i think it's supposed to read, of the.
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sam lefthand wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:20 pm No GoUnion. That horrid awful irrational mess was addressed directly at Bradman.

:shock:

Bradman is clearly the victim of Carmen's brutal gas lighting assault upon his very person.

:o

And then you show up with a gas lantern.
Settle down Sam. It's all good. It's no big deal. i'm used to it. And for the most part, it has become totally irrelevant to any discussion i'd care for. Let it go.

Your turn GU.
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bradman wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:35 pm Settle down Sam. It's all good. It's no big deal. i'm used to it. And for the most part, it has become totally irrelevant to any discussion i'd care for. Let it go.

Your turn GU.
Yes, that's wise Bradman.

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