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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:35 pm As it should be.
But then, you guys on the board think the victim’s pasts are relevant, don’t you?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:36 pm I use both Windows and Mac. I like certain thinks about PC's and certain things about Mac. I think it depends on what you are doing and what you've gotten used to. If someone asks me what to buy, I have to ask what they are going to use it for.
So, there are different sectors where the different computer phyla proliferate.

I will point out Windows has tended to predominate in business. Also, I'll be honest, a hardcore gamer is better off with a Windows machine, Macs are just not built to give you 180 FPS in Call of Booty.

Macs have tended to predominate in education, both K-12 and higher. We can get into the reasons why. Also the arts and design.
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ProfX wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:54 pm So, there are different sectors where the different computer phyla proliferate.

I will point out Windows has tended to predominate in business. Also, I'll be honest, a hardcore gamer is better off with a Windows machine, Macs are just not built to give you 180 FPS in Call of Booty.

Macs have tended to predominate in education, both K-12 and higher. We can get into the reasons why. Also the arts and design.
It's almost impossible to live stream video to the internet with a Mac. At least, as of a year ago. I don't think it's changed.
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ProfX wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:54 pm So, there are different sectors where the different computer phyla proliferate.

I will point out Windows has tended to predominate in business. Also, I'll be honest, a hardcore gamer is better off with a Windows machine, Macs are just not built to give you 180 FPS in Call of Booty.

Macs have tended to predominate in education, both K-12 and higher. We can get into the reasons why. Also the arts and design.
In the late 70’s, early 80’s business approached Apple to be part of the business technology future. Apple declined. Microsoft seized every opportunity at breakneck speed. It was stunning how quickly the PC replaced the 3270 dumb terminal architecture in mainframe connectivity. Microsoft met the needs of business. Apple didn’t want to play.
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gounion wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:58 pm It's almost impossible to live stream video to the internet with a Mac. At least, as of a year ago. I don't think it's changed.
Sigh ... do we need to get off on this topic? You most definitely can. But it really maybe belongs in the Techie subforum.

https://filmora.wondershare.com/live-st ... r-mac.html

I can definitely tell you it's not impossible from personal experience; I've done it.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:03 pm In the late 70’s, early 80’s business approached Apple to be part of the business technology future. Apple declined. Microsoft seized every opportunity at breakneck speed. It was stunning how quickly the PC replaced the 3270 dumb terminal architecture in mainframe connectivity. Microsoft met the needs of business. Apple didn’t want to play.
Bill Gates stole and scammed all that software.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:35 pm As it should be.
Be sure and tell your authoritarian friends around here who keep trotting out their criminal histories.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:03 pm In the late 70’s, early 80’s business approached Apple to be part of the business technology future. Apple declined. Microsoft seized every opportunity at breakneck speed. It was stunning how quickly the PC replaced the 3270 dumb terminal architecture in mainframe connectivity. Microsoft met the needs of business. Apple didn’t want to play.
Yes, Jobs and Wozniak decided to go a different route, they were more interested in, as I said, making a machine for education, and arts and design.

Fun fact: Steve Jobs never finished college. But the early Macs were famous for one key feature that only later came to other machines: highly customizable fonts. Do you know why? One of the things Jobs was interested in during his college years was calligraphy. This was touched on in one of the biopic films about him.
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ProfX wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:26 pm Yes, Jobs and Wozniak decided to go a different route, they were more interested in, as I said, making a machine for education, and arts and design.

Fun fact: Steve Jobs never finished college. But the early Macs were famous for one key feature that only later came to other machines: highly customizable fonts. Do you know why? One of the things Jobs was interested in during his college years was calligraphy. This was touched on in one of the biopic films about him.
Yep, they were innovators. Gates stole their operating system.
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Mostly white jury nearly set in trial of officer who shot Daunte Wright - LA Times
MINNEAPOLIS — A mostly white jury is nearly set for the trial of a suburban Minneapolis police officer charged in Daunte Wright’s shooting death, with only two alternate panelists remaining to be chosen before opening statements next week.
Kim Potter, 49, is charged with first- and second-degree manslaughter in the April 11 shooting of Wright, a 20-year-old Black motorist, following a traffic stop in the Minneapolis suburb of Brooklyn Center.

Potter, who is white, has said that she meant to use her Taser on Wright after he pulled away from officers while they were trying to arrest him, but that she drew her handgun by mistake. Her body camera recorded the shooting.

Nine of the 12 jurors seated so far are white, with one juror identifying as Black and two as Asian. The panel is evenly split between men and women. The group will be the 12 who deliberate in the case unless either or both of the alternates are needed.
I would hate to have to be one of these lone African Americans on these crappy juries.
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gounion wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:08 pm Bill Gates stole and scammed all that software.
Gates stole nothing he bought the operating system.
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bradman wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:35 pm Settle down Sam. It's all good. It's no big deal. i'm used to it. And for the most part, it has become totally irrelevant to any discussion i'd care for. Let it go.

Your turn GU.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:12 am Gates stole nothing he bought the operating system.
Reality check:
March 17, 1988: Apple sues Microsoft for allegedly stealing 189 different elements of its Macintosh operating system to create Windows 2.0.

The incident, which causes a deep rift between Apple and one of its top developers, paves the way for an epic battle between the two companies that will rage for years.
Windows was a complete rip-off of the Mac OS.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:52 am Reality check:



Windows was a complete rip-off of the Mac OS.
We can go back to most industrial innovations and find that many of them were copied and an improvement just like windows
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:02 am We can go back to most industrial innovations and find that many of them were copied and an improvement just like windows
You mean stolen. Gates ripped off everything he ever did. Yeah, he "bought" the OS - for almost nothing, not letting the guy know it was for IBM.

But that's how "businessmen" work, isn't it? They make the deals, those who do the work are left with nothing.
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gounion wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:58 pm It's almost impossible to live stream video to the internet with a Mac. At least, as of a year ago. I don't think it's changed.
I haven't heard this but it very likely has to do with where on the internet you're streaming to. I do also agree that PCs are really just better-suited for this type of thing.

Tip for Mac users reading. I've thrown a few COVID era parties over the past couple years and haven't had any issues streaming to either Zoom or Facebook Live. But one thing I would really recommend for anyone wishing to stream live, use your ethernet connection, not your WiFi. WiFi can have dropouts that you just won't get with a wired connection.Also, for software, I have found OBS to be really reliable on both Mac and PC, and Zoom has improved by leaps and bounds over the past couple years. Got to hand it to them. They stepped up to the challenge, imo.

Only thing you have to deal with with them is, the proprietary compression they put on everything going out. But then, every platform does this, too -- FB Live, YouTube, Spotify if you're doing podcasts there, etc.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:13 am You mean stolen. Gates ripped off everything he ever did. Yeah, he "bought" the OS - for almost nothing, not letting the guy know it was for IBM.

But that's how "businessmen" work, isn't it? They make the deals, those who do the work are left with nothing.
I'd by THAT for a dollar!
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:02 am ... copied ...
Ripped off.
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bradman wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:35 pm Settle down Sam. It's all good. It's no big deal. i'm used to it. And for the most part, it has become totally irrelevant to any discussion i'd care for. Let it go.

Your turn GU.
Congratulations, ya pal is a racist icon, and has been one since the outset of this story.

You yourself have supported this person from the outset of the story.

Proud Boys to hold ‘Kyle Rittenhouse appreciation rally’ in SLC on Saturday - St. Louis Trib

Wow between one of the most prominent, violent alt-right group in the country, and one of Twitter's worst neonazi, how's that defense of Kyle Rittenhouse going these days? You must have a lot to balance.
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gounion wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:38 pm But then, you guys on the board think the victim’s pasts are relevant, don’t you?
It is relevant to a self defense claim.
Especially when you are talking about career criminals and people who have committed violent crimes.
Why wouldn't that be relevant
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:48 pm It is relevant to a self defense claim.
Especially when you are talking about career criminals and people who have committed violent crimes.
Why wouldn't that be relevant
It's only relevant to people who think vigilantes have the right to play the famous "judge, jury and executioner."

Conservative white males have been self-deputizing and formally deputized to kill at will for how many centuries, now?

Kyle Rittenhouse is a white nationalist self-deputizing vigilante who was given aid and comfort by the cops, and told to go home when he turned himself in.

This is an old old old M.O. No wonder you support it.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:00 pm Well, for instance, any criminal can go to a gun show and legally buy a gun, no background check needed.

Why shouldn’t you have a duty to walk away? Do you think if someone attacks you, that’s an automatic death sentence for them? What about if you accidentally run someone off the road, and they get out of their car mad as hell? You then have the right to blow them away?

Gun laws seem to work just fine in every other country on earth. Why can they not work here?
The gun show purchase is not legal if the purchaser is a criminal, but I understand the gist of your comment and I am fine with requiring background checks for purchases at gun shows.

If someone attacks me, physically attacks me, I have the right to defend myself and it is my responsibility to know what level of response is lawful. In your road rage example I simply remove myself from the area so the conflict does not escalate. A verbal altercation is not a physical assault.

Again - what proposed gun laws, or other countries gun laws, do you would you my thoughts on?
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“ DID BILL GATES STEAL THE HEART OF DOS?”

“The mystery of the rumored theft of CP/M by a little company called Microsoft can finally be investigated—using software forensic tools”

https://spectrum.ieee.org/did-bill-gate ... art-of-dos

Good article.

As to the Windows Mac ripoff. Jobs ripped GUI off from xerox. Apple hired and “licensed” Microsoft to work on it for Apple. And Microsoft won the five year long lawsuit.
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Bludogdem wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:40 pm “ DID BILL GATES STEAL THE HEART OF DOS?”

“The mystery of the rumored theft of CP/M by a little company called Microsoft can finally be investigated—using software forensic tools”

https://spectrum.ieee.org/did-bill-gate ... art-of-dos

Good article.

As to the Windows Mac ripoff. Jobs ripped GUI off from xerox. Apple hired and “licensed” Microsoft to work on it for Apple. And Microsoft won the five year long lawsuit.
Gates was no innovator - he was a thief. And his software was total shit for years. I can tell you never bought a machine with Windows ME on it - or you wouldn't be defending that piece of shit.
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Ted wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:10 pm The gun show purchase is not legal if the purchaser is a criminal, but I understand the gist of your comment and I am fine with requiring background checks for purchases at gun shows.
Why is it so important for the right to leave open this easy way for criminals to get guns?
If someone attacks me, physically attacks me, I have the right to defend myself and it is my responsibility to know what level of response is lawful. In your road rage example I simply remove myself from the area so the conflict does not escalate. A verbal altercation is not a physical assault.
So you're saying you have a duty to retreat...

The problem is people are using the "Stand your ground" as an excuse to escalate. They only have to "feel threatened".

They also use it to START altercations, feeling that if the other person defends themselves, they can murder. That's EXACTLY what Rittenhouse did. He said that, after murdering two people, the next person was trying to disarm him. He said he thought that person was going to use the gun on him.

If you were attacked by a man with a gun, and you were fighting for your life, would you be trying to take the gun to shoot the person, or just to disarm him?
Again - what proposed gun laws, or other countries gun laws, do you would you my thoughts on?
First, the right did away with the assault weapon ban. Don't you think that was smart law to have?

And second, let's look at our neighbor, Canada.
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