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You can add this to the argument as well.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/16 ... eg-abbott/
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Another brutal massacre at a mall in Texas yesterday. Among the dead are children. Unfortunately I’ve seen pictures and there’s video of the aftermath. I think people need to see these pictures and video to wake up. Don’t look away. Ted Cruz and the rest just cut and pasted the same response of thoughts and prayer, just inserting the name of a new location. You gotta be utterly sociopathic.
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Let's be clear: the ONLY solution that Joe or Glenn talk about is "enforcing the laws that are on the books".

But in Texas, you can carry any gun openly. So, if you're following these guys into the mall:

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They're only breaking the law when they start shooting. Up until then, they are law-abiding "good guys with a gun".
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Talk is over. Thoughts and prayers are over. The choice is to restore sane government or endure national suicide.

Some little girl in a market was found dead and when the cop turned her body over, her face was gone. Is this the kind of country you want to live in?
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Let's take a page from the anti-abortion movement. Remember when they wanted women to see pictures of aborted fetuses? Let's pass a federal law requiring all federally licenses gun shops and dealer to post pictures of adults and children and the wounds they received from a mass shooting before they can purchase a gun or apply for a background check and again before they can take delivery of their weapon.
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Number6 wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 2:29 pm Let's take a page from the anti-abortion movement. Remember when they wanted women to see pictures of aborted fetuses? Let's pass a federal law requiring all federally licenses gun shops and dealer to post pictures of adults and children and the wounds they received from a mass shooting before they can purchase a gun or apply for a background check and again before they can take delivery of their weapon.
My proposal at DU yesterday, most responding agree. Some people say no, to which I say then what, do NOTHING?


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Shooter has been identified. Looks like yet another law-abiding citizen right up to the moment he's not. A "good guy with a gun" who was trained as a security guard.
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gounion wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 2:54 pm Shooter has been identified. Looks like yet another law-abiding citizen right up to the moment he's not. A "good guy with a gun" who was trained as a security guard.
If he is not white, watch what happens.

So far it is what, 93% of the time a white male in mass shootings?
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Libertas wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 3:06 pm If he is not white, watch what happens.

So far it is what, 93% of the time a white male in mass shootings?
Hispanic. But legally in the country, since he was a licensed, trained security guard.

You know, a "good guy with a gun".

According to Glenn, all we need to do is "enforce the laws that are on the books". Everyone else should be able to carry AR-15s with them everywhere. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

There's an easy way to get the right to change the gun laws. First, have black people start carrying AR-15s with them everywhere they go. Of course, most will get shot on sight by the cops. They don't like black people with guns.

But that's how Ronald Reagan was a big fan of gun control, when blacks started carrying them.
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Shooter was a neo-nazi right winger: https://www.rawstory.com/allen-texas-sh ... ing-squad/
The motivation for the attack was right-wing extremism, CNN said, citing a local law enforcement official. He had a patch reading RWDS on his chest, which police claim means "right-wing death squad."

"Officials are also investigating any possible ties between the suspect and radical beliefs after he was found wearing a patch on his chest that suggested white supremacist or neo-Nazi leanings," said the Washington Post.

NBC News explained in greater detail, "suspected Allen, Texas mall shooter Mauricio Garcia interacted with neo-Nazi and white supremacist content online, according to two senior law enforcement officials."
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First person to get to the little girl tried to take a pulse, then realized that the girl’s face had been blown off. https://www.rawstory.com/mass-shooting-mental-health/
Spainhauer sought to push back on people who blame "mental health" instead of a gun for the killings.

"I don't know what the gunman's problem was," he said. "I don't know his motive, but it wasn't mental health that killed these people. It was an automatic rifle with bullets. That's what killed them."

"I'm a gun lover; I have guns," he added. "I'm a former police officer. I'm a former army officer. But these M4s, MAR15s, they've got to get off the streets, or this is going to keep happening."
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Still think Texas and Alabama are safer than New York?
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gounion wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 3:44 pm Shooter was a neo-nazi right winger: https://www.rawstory.com/allen-texas-sh ... ing-squad/
Of course, and the girl with the face blown off, we need video of that on every channel, every website 24/7.

Would love to have a law that if you are a gunner you have to look at the pictures everyday for a month or something.
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Nikki Haley doofus. Staged photo op. She's not firing the gun; it has no magazine in it. Sucking up and lying to the base.

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ZoWie wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 6:40 pm Still think Texas and Alabama are safer than New York?
Only 10,000 crimes in New York City this month. They should throw a parade


https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/p000 ... march-2023
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8 million people live there. It has the highest population density in the US. Even so, the crime rate is statistically down from the Central Park mugging era, but they won't tell you that part. It serves their narrative to dismiss cities as hellholes, so we will forget that their policy has caused thousands of people nationwide to trade murder fantasies online, or walk around in public carrying assault rifles. I prefer to live somewhere where the guy next to me in the street isn't legally waving around a weapon of war.

If you people got your way, we'd have to change the Statue of Liberty so she'd be pointing an AR-15 at incoming ships.
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HOw did this happen


https://twitter.com/larryhuynh/status/1 ... 96000?s=20


BREAKING: The Raise The Age bill just passed 8-5 out of committee in Texas!!

Survivors of Uvalde and Moms Demand Action pushed hard to make 21 the minimum age to buy an AR-style rifle. Today was the LAST DAY to get it done. And they did!

The NRA knows this is huge because, if sane gun reform can be done in Texas, it can be done ANYWHERE in America.

But the NRA is hoping people will forget about this victory. They want us to be shocked into silence, feeling hopeless.

That's why it's CRITICAL to get the good news out, and make sure it does NOT end here.

House Bill 2744 not only raises the age to 21, it also prohibits selling guns to someone who's intoxicated or has an active protective order. Finally.

Change is coming to my home state of Texas. We will win.
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Libertas wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 2:09 pm HOw did this happen


https://twitter.com/larryhuynh/status/1 ... 96000?s=20
Gotta give it to them to try. But chances of it getting passed and singed are low.

But anger against the right is growing. Maybe even Texans won’t want a mass killing a day. They like to go to shop without dying.
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Texas mall shooter ranted against Jews, women and racial minorities on apparent social media page
Mauricio Garcia, 33, maintained a profile on the Russian social networking platform OK.RU, which is part of a law enforcement investigation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/te ... -rcna83336

A social media page appearing to belong to a gunman who killed eight people at a Dallas-area outlet mall shared extremist beliefs with rants against Jews, women and racial minorities posted since September, as well as posts about struggling with mental health.

Mauricio Garcia, 33, maintained a profile on the Russian social networking platform OK.RU, including posts referencing extremist online forums, such as 4chan, and content from white nationalists, including Nick Fuentes, an antisemitic white nationalist provocateur.

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In another post, he made disturbing comments about what makes a mass shooting "important" and praised a person who opened fire at a private Christian school in Nashville earlier this year, killing six people, including three children.

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He also posted photos of a flak vest emblazoned with patches, including one with the acronym for "Right Wing Death Squad," a popular meme among far-right extremist groups. Another post included a series of shirtless pictures with visible white power tattoos, including SS Lightning Bolts and a swastika.

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The shooter joined the Army in June 2008 but was kicked out after three months for a physical or mental condition. He did not complete basic training, nor was he ever deployed or received any awards, said Heather Hagan, a U.S. Army Public Affairs spokeswoman.

[snip][end]

Yes, he posted this stuff to an account on Odnoklassniki.RU ... a Russian anti-social media site.
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I wonder how much of this revival of Nazi ideology is encouraged by Russian black ops.

Seriously, I don't know, so I wonder. It would not surprise me if it was non-trivial, though. The people who named agitprop in the first place are known for excelling at it.
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*continues to wait for list of laws that would have stopped these shootings*
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Why do they always end up hating Jewish people...fuck em, we need to destroy these fucks.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65529509
Tens of thousands of Serbs have joined protests against gun violence in the capital Belgrade and another city after two mass shootings last week.

Seventeen people died in the shootings on Wednesday and Thursday, including eight children in a primary school.

The protesters called for the resignation of top government officials and want newspapers and TV stations they say promote violence shut down.
Two shootings and there are masses in the street. Here that's a normal bad day and we barely notice.
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https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-guest-a ... 50721.html
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Fox News Guest’s Answer to Mass Shootings: ‘Plan to Kill Everyone You Meet’
In the wake of yet another mass shooting — this time at a mall in Allen, Texas, where a gunman killed at least eight people — a Fox News guest recommended that Americans who fear they may be a victim of the next shooting should “be polite and professional, but plan to kill everyone you meet.”

Alex Coker, a television host and former police officer, was quoting a line that General James Mattis reportedly told troops in the war zones of Iraq and Afghanistan. But Coker now thinks that this kind of mindset is healthy for people in America.

“What do you say to folks who live in neighborhoods maybe like Allen, Texas, where they don’t think crime will ever hit them, and they don’t need to prepare? What would you tell them?” host Lawrence Jones asked Coker on Saturday night’s episode of Lawrence Jones Cross Country.

“Run away like your life depends on it. You need to be physically fit, and run fast,” Coker said. “So move move, move. Second thing is to barricade. Try to put something between you and that gunman. And the third is prepare to defend. Like a hornet’s nest, everyone comes together. And go ahead and tag the guy. Enough people coming together at once will take out that armed gunman. You can take him out and override them whether it’s even a plane or a Walmart.”

Then Coker added this little nugget of wisdom: “Just like General Mathis said: Be polite and professional, but plan to kill everyone you meet. Something you might say could cause someone to snap.”
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Does faux nooz headquarters in the 6th Avenue wannabe "close to Rock Center as they'll let us get" building still have an armored vehicle parked out front with an ad for a wannabe soldier training camp weekend on it?
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