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ZoWie wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:36 am There's insufficient data to make a call right now. It appears that the atmospheric river is passing through farther south than predicted.

I'll be interested in how the weather people explain this winter. It's the coldest in 50 years, though in SoCal that's relative, and the rainiest in something like 25.
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Ouch...

Are they new or have they just started saying the name, atmospheric rivers?
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ZoWie wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:36 am There's insufficient data to make a call right now. It appears that the atmospheric river is passing through farther south than predicted.

I'll be interested in how the weather people explain this winter. It's the coldest in 50 years, though in SoCal that's relative, and the rainiest in something like 25.
What is an "atmospheric river" in that what was it called before or is it something new?

I have googled it but

crazy

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It's the same thing they used to call the Pineapple Express. The new name is more descriptive of what's really going on. Basically a low pressure system over the Northern Pacific causes a moist air circulation that starts in the central Pacific and on the satellite pictures really does look like a thin white band aimed directly at a small portion of the western North American coast. It's rare for it to last all winter, and when it does, the result is usually the kind of rainy season that you see on the Nooz.

You probably don't watch Highway Through Hell, but it follows various tow companies trying to keep roads open in the Cascade Mountains NE of Vancouver BC. They had one of these last year, and the biggest highway of the lot ceased to exist. They're still rebuilding it, according to photos I've found online.

This year it seems to be Central California's turn. I'm waiting for the road in and out of Big Sur to wash out. That's when you know it's another year for the books. Last I read, they were telling people there to stock up on supplies that could last them a week of total isolation.

We're supposed to be south of it, but the satellite pics sure look like it's aimed right up Sunset Boulevard.
Libertas wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:26 pm What is an "atmospheric river" in that what was it called before or is it something new?

I have googled it but

crazy

https://youtu.be/gQGY3cXzt3g
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ZoWie wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:33 pm It's the same thing they used to call the Pineapple Express. The new name is more descriptive of what's really going on. Basically a low pressure system over the Northern Pacific causes a moist air circulation that starts in the central Pacific and on the satellite pictures really does look like a thin white band aimed directly at a small portion of the western North American coast. It's rare for it to last all winter, and when it does, the result is usually the kind of rainy season that you see on the Nooz.

You probably don't watch Highway Through Hell, but it follows various tow companies trying to keep roads open in the Cascade Mountains NE of Vancouver BC. They had one of these last year, and the biggest highway of the lot ceased to exist. They're still rebuilding it, according to photos I've found online.

This year it seems to be Central California's turn. I'm waiting for the road in and out of Big Sur to wash out. That's when you know it's another year for the books. Last I read, they were telling people there to stock up on supplies that could last them a week of total isolation.

We're supposed to be south of it, but the satellite pics sure look like it's aimed right up Sunset Boulevard.
Thanks, actually my son likes Highway Thru Hell and I am now watching some. Which episode had the atmospheric river?

Watching "History Of The World Part 2?"
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River Towns In California’s Sierra Nevada Foothills Overrun By Flooding After Heavy Rain

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Highway Through Hell always a season behind, since the show is in syndication when the Weather Channel gets it.

Last year in the fall sometime, an atmospheric river took out huge stretches of the highway over the mountains. The Weather Channel ran the episode a couple of months back. Same scenario... the air is too warm for snow, so gigatons of water fall on anything that looks like a coastal slope. There were new river channels where the highway had been. There were new lakes where farm towns were supposed to be. They've done a heroic, and very expensive, job getting it all functioning again.

What's happening in central CA this year looks like a somewhat less radical version of same.

The real pisser was the monster blizzard in the middle, because it deposited enough snow to melt off all summer and put a huge dent in our drought. That was a cold storm, not an atmospheric river. Now the warm rain is falling on all that snow, making it all melt too soon, and it's not going to help the drought very much after all. It's just going to kill people.

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ZoWie wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:36 am There's insufficient data to make a call right now. It appears that the atmospheric river is passing through farther south than predicted.

I'll be interested in how the weather people explain this winter. It's the coldest in 50 years, though in SoCal that's relative, and the rainiest in something like 25.
The weather on the local news was saying we'd only get a small amount of rain in San Diego because at the southernmost end of the atmospheric river but we got .88 inches of rain over the last 24 hours, way ore than expected. Our average rain fall for the year at this date is 7.76 inches and we're now at 10.09 inches which is good considering we've been in a drought for three years.

I'm leaving for Reno for a bowling tournament on Saturday and hopefully the atmospheric rivers will be over by then. One of my teammates was supposed to leave today for Reno where he's rented a cabin to go snow boarding for a couple of days but he's decided to postpone leaving until tomorrow. It looks like another atmospheric river is supposed to hit on Monday so I'm wondering if he'll postpone or cancel his snow boarding trip.
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Number6 wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:45 pm The weather on the local news was saying we'd only get a small amount of rain in San Diego because at the southernmost end of the atmospheric river but we got .88 inches of rain over the last 24 hours, way ore than expected. Our average rain fall for the year at this date is 7.76 inches and we're now at 10.09 inches which is good considering we've been in a drought for three years.

I'm leaving for Reno for a bowling tournament on Saturday and hopefully the atmospheric rivers will be over by then. One of my teammates was supposed to leave today for Reno where he's rented a cabin to go snow boarding for a couple of days but he's decided to postpone leaving until tomorrow. It looks like another atmospheric river is supposed to hit on Monday so I'm wondering if he'll postpone or cancel his snow boarding trip.
From the life just isn't fair department. My big brother averaged over 200 in 3 different leagues at 3 different houses.
Because he wanted challenged. Claiming anyone could average 200 if they only bowled in one house.
Me, of I said I averaged 140 I would be adding pins to my average.
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Number6 wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:45 pm The weather on the local news was saying we'd only get a small amount of rain in San Diego because at the southernmost end of the atmospheric river but we got .88 inches of rain over the last 24 hours, way ore than expected. Our average rain fall for the year at this date is 7.76 inches and we're now at 10.09 inches which is good considering we've been in a drought for three years.
We're at 25 inches and counting, with two more storms out there.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:28 pm From the life just isn't fair department. My big brother averaged over 200 in 3 different leagues at 3 different houses.
Because he wanted challenged. Claiming anyone could average 200 if they only bowled in one house.
Me, of I said I averaged 140 I would be adding pins to my average.
Good luck 6, give as much hell as you give me. ;)
Thanks, and your brother is right about having a high average at only one house. I bowl in two different house with one house having a long, heavy oil pattern and the other having a light (drier) oil pattern. I do better on the light pattern but when I sub on the long, heavy oil pattern I do better than I do in my league in the same house; go figure.

I'll be bowling in the tournament on Monday and Tuesday and I've downloaded the oil patterns from the past six years to figure out what to be expecting. Now, I have to prepare my bowling balls for a different oil pattern.
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Earthquakes signal Hawaii’s Kilauea about to resume erupting
Hawaii’s second-largest volcano is likely to resume erupting soon after a brief pause.

The U.S. Geological Survey said Saturday that a shallow earthquake storm had been detected under the summit of Kilauea. That signals that “resumption of eruptive activity at Kilauea summit is likely imminent,” the USGS said.

Scientists just said Tuesday that lava had stopped flowing after 61 days of volcanic activity, but Kilauea is living up to its reputation as one of the world’s most active volcanoes. It also erupted from September 2021 to last December. A 2018 Kilauea eruption destroyed more than 700 residences.
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Giant seaweed blob twice the width of the US takes aim at Floridaquote]
Marine scientists are tracking a 5,000-mile-wide seaweed bloom that is so large, it can be seen from space.

These sargassum blooms are nothing new, but scientists say this one could be the largest in history. At last check, it was heading toward Florida’s Gulf coast.

The thick mat of algae drifts between the Atlantic coast of Africa and the Gulf of Mexico, providing habitat for marine life and absorbing carbon dioxide, but it can also wreak havoc when when it gets closer to shore. It blocks light from reaching coral and negatively impacts air and water quality as it decomposes.

Florida’s Gulf coast is already grappling with an algae bloom amid the busy spring break tourism season. Red tide has caused dead fish to wash ashore in droves, while the risk of respiratory irritation for humans has canceled events and driven beachgoers away.
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We've had large amounts of seaweed on our beaches at times and the smell from them is close to retching so I can empathize with what the people of Florida is going through.
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I pose a question to all of my friends here according to Marco Rubio he says Daylight Savings Time is stupid what do you say.

Rubio reintroduces permanent daylight saving time bill

Starting Sunday, it will be lighter out later, as Americans once again engage in the annual ritual of moving their clocks forward one hour.

On Capitol Hill, some members of Congress are renewing a push to make daylight saving time permanent.

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/po ... -time-bill
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ap215 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:58 pm I pose a question to all of my friends here according to Marco Rubio he says Daylight Savings Time is stupid what do you say.

Rubio reintroduces permanent daylight saving time bill

Starting Sunday, it will be lighter out later, as Americans once again engage in the annual ritual of moving their clocks forward one hour.

On Capitol Hill, some members of Congress are renewing a push to make daylight saving time permanent.

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/po ... -time-bill
Sure, why not.

More importantly, is the GOP working on a SINGLE bill to help the economy, environment or healthcare?
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ap215 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:58 pm I pose a question to all of my friends here according to Marco Rubio he says Daylight Savings Time is stupid what do you say.

Rubio reintroduces permanent daylight saving time bill

Starting Sunday, it will be lighter out later, as Americans once again engage in the annual ritual of moving their clocks forward one hour.

On Capitol Hill, some members of Congress are renewing a push to make daylight saving time permanent.

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/po ... -time-bill
I wish they would pick one or the other and stick with it.
Personally I prefer daylight savings time.
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ap215 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:58 pm I pose a question to all of my friends here according to Marco Rubio he says Daylight Savings Time is stupid what do you say.

Rubio reintroduces permanent daylight saving time bill

Starting Sunday, it will be lighter out later, as Americans once again engage in the annual ritual of moving their clocks forward one hour.

On Capitol Hill, some members of Congress are renewing a push to make daylight saving time permanent.

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/po ... -time-bill
I don't have any preference with either one. Doing away with it means I won't have to change my clocks twice a year. Keeping it means it will be lighter in the mornings in the Fall/Winter and lighter in the evenings in the Spring/Summer. I remember in years past there was an uproar from parents complaining that in the Spring their kids were going to school in the dark and that was a safety concern.

Keeping it or changing it really won't impact me since I'm retired. That's one of the nice things about being retired is stuff like this doesn't bother me like it did when I was working. I can go along with the flow and not be impacted by it.
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As Biden weighs Willow, he blocks other Alaska oil drilling

WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — As President Joe Biden prepares a final decision on the huge Willow oil project in Alaska, his administration announced he will prevent or limit oil drilling in 16 million acres in Alaska and the Arctic Ocean.

Plans announced Sunday night will bar drilling in nearly 3 million acres of the Beaufort Sea — closing it off from oil exploration — and limit drilling in more than 13 million acres in a vast swath of land known as the National Petroleum Reserve - Alaska.

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A couple more inches and we'll have the rainiest winter here in around 50 years. Construction companies are going to do great this summer. By then everything will need fixing. We're getting a list together here.

I don't have to retype this because the UPS intercepted a power blip. Still up here, but something just blew up somewhere in LA.

I wonder whether the worst drought in 1200 years is over yet.
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ZoWie wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:58 am A couple more inches and we'll have the rainiest winter here in around 50 years. Construction companies are going to do great this summer. By then everything will need fixing. We're getting a list together here.

I don't have to retype this because the UPS intercepted a power blip. Still up here, but something just blew up somewhere in LA.

I wonder whether the worst drought in 1200 years is over yet.
Blew up? Looks like WW3 is here so either way...something about drones and russians and the GOP supporting putin over America.
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We routinely fly unarmed surveillance drones, crewed electronic intelligence aircraft such as the E-3, and other such missions in the areas just outside Ukraine's borders. Had the Russians shot down a crewed aircraft, we would likely not be here now to type this stuff. Sometimes they show up on the flight tracking web sites.

The drone was forced down, and crashed in the water. Last I read was when the US and Russia were in a race to get ships to the drone first, and Russia was winning, having a navy base in the region and all that.

Right now, I'm more concerned about the climate. In two months we've gone from a 1200-year drought to a 50-year flood and there's more predicted next week.
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Strong earthquake kills at least 13 in Ecuador, 1 in Peru

QUITO, Ecuador (AP) — A strong earthquake shook southern Ecuador and northern Peru on Saturday, killing at least 14 people, trapping others under rubble, and sending rescue teams out into streets littered with debris and fallen power lines.

The U.S. Geological Survey reported an earthquake with a magnitude of about 6.8 that was centered just off the Pacific Coast, about 50 miles (80 kilometers) south of Guayaquil, Ecuador’s second-largest city. One of the victims died in Peru, while 13 others died in Ecuador, where authorities also reported that at least 126 people were injured.

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This is unbelievable.

Watch a Tornado Touch Down in Los Angeles Suburbs (Video)

Less than a month after Los Angeles was greeted with its own snowstorm moment from “The Day After Tomorrow,” the suburb of Montbello was hit with a scene out of “The Wizard of Oz.”

On Wednesday, a tornado touched down in the East L.A. city with video of the event and its aftermath quickly surfacing online.

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Old phenomenon, but now everyone carries a complete TV remote news camera and distribution system in their pocket, so you see it. Not to say that LA has many tornadoes, but it's good for one or two any time the weather throws the kind of fit it has this year. In fact, I think it's the second time our county has been tornado warned this year.
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The world has a plastics problem. We've become dependent upon plastics but the real problem is the environmental damage it does. When plastic breaks down it becomes microplastics that lasts "forever" and can get into the food and water we consume. Recycling plastics is a problem because most plastics aren't recycled properly and mixed with trash. There may be a substitute for the way plastics are made (from oil) by using a product used in most of our homes. This product is Superglue.

Plastics are made of short-chain polymers (chemistry term) and by combining Superglue with acetone and a catalyst produces a long-chain polymer (again, a chemistry term) stronger than the short-chain polymer plastics. This stronger plastics can be used in products like cutlery, disposable razors, CD cases or plastic models replacing polystyrene. A major advantage of this "Superglue plastic" is that it can easily be recycled by heating it to 400 degrees °F breaking down the molecular chains into a vapor and when cooled recover 90% of the "Superglue" plastic.

While this is an interesting concept the only thing I'd be concerned about would this plastic pose a threat to our health if ingested through use as cutlery, cups, plates, etc., as used in fast food restaurants?
Our team used superglue as a starting material to develop a low-cost, recyclable and easily produced transparent plastic called polyethyl cyanoacrylate that has properties similar to those of plastics used for single-use products like cutlery, cups and packaging. Unlike most traditional plastics, this new plastic can be easily converted back to its starting materials, even when combined with unwashed municipal plastic waste.

To make a plastic from superglue, we first had to address the very issue that makes superglue so “super” – it sticks to just about everything. When superglue is used to stick something together, it is actually reacting with moisture in the air or on the surface of whatever is being glued together. This reaction forms molecular chains of repeating superglue units called polymers. The polymers made when gluing something together are short and don’t bind to each other well, which makes the glue brittle and easy to break.

The way we make these plastics is relatively simple when compared with how other types of plastics are made – we simply mixed acetone and a little bit of an eco-friendly catalyst into store-bought superglue. Once this mixture dries, it produces a solid, glassy plastic made up of long polymer chains.

When our material is heated to 410 degrees Fahrenheit (210 C), the long molecule chains made of repeating superglue units break apart into their small, individual superglue molecules. At this point, the superglue molecules turn into a vapor that is easy to separate out from a mixed waste stream of other plastics, paper, food residue, aluminum and other refuse commonly found in recycling waste streams. Once you collect the superglue vapor, you can cool it and turn it right back into our new plastic with over 90% efficiency.
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Mississippi tornadoes kill 23, injure dozens overnight

ROLLING FORK, Miss. (AP) — Powerful tornadoes tore through parts of the Deep South on Friday night, killing at least 23 people in Mississippi, obliterating dozens of buildings and leaving an especially devastating mark on a rural town whose mayor declared, “My city is gone.”

The Mississippi Emergency Management Agency said in a Twitter post that search and rescue teams from local and state agencies were deployed to help victims impacted by the tornadoes. The agency confirmed early Saturday that 23 people had died, four were missing and dozens were injured.

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