EARTH....

[ZoWie]

I split solar-terrestrial phenomena into another thread because while they might have a minor and poorly understood effect on our weather, they are basically space based.

The aurora lasted one night. Indeed, a strong flow of various charged particles shifted the planet's magnetic field, and when magnetic fields move in the presence of electric conductors, you have a generator by any other name. Along with excited gas molecules making aurora, the ground becomes charged and power companies can have long nights. Also satellites arc and have to be replaced sooner.

The solar explosions are huge. They're caused by intense magnetic fields around sunspots breaking or shorting out, thus liberating energy. Were the Earth anywhere near one, it would vaporize, but then it wouldn't last much longer that close to the sun anyway.

Not a flicker in LA. There was farther south but here it was foggy. Couldn't see it.

New York is farther north, and the photos of the aurora competing with Midtown Manhattan lights are rather striking. One shot making the rounds was of Central Park with aurora. THAT is bright.

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There are some photos of the comet making the rounds. It's a big one. It's a major comet for sure, but it's awfully close to the sun. I like the ones that you see just by looking up on a clear night. Those are the ones that used to start wars and topple monarchs.

[ZoWie]

I split solar-terrestrial phenomena into another thread because while they might have a minor and poorly understood effect on our weather, they are basically space based.

The aurora lasted one night. Indeed, a strong flow of various charged particles shifted the planet's magnetic field, and when magnetic fields move in the presence of electric conductors, you have a generator by any other name. Along with excited gas molecules making aurora in the sky, the ground becomes charged and power companies can have long nights. Also satellites arc and have to be replaced sooner.

This one also charged the polar ionosphere more than most, and so you can forget about navigation aids for the duration at that latitude. GPS doesn't work, short wave radio doesn't work, and satellites need radio waves and those are being absorbed. This phenomenon is actually caused by the first high-energy particles reaching Earth within hours rather than days, and it tends to persist for 2-3 days.

The solar explosions are huge. They're caused by intense magnetic fields around sunspots breaking or shorting out, thus liberating energy. Were the Earth anywhere near one, it would vaporize, but then it wouldn't last much longer that close to the sun anyway.

Not a flicker in LA. There was farther south but here it was foggy. Couldn't see it.

New York is farther north, and the photos of the aurora competing with Midtown Manhattan lights are rather striking. One shot making the rounds was of Central Park with aurora. THAT is bright.

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There are some photos of the comet making the rounds. It's a big one. It's a major comet for sure, but it's awfully close to the sun. I like the ones that you see just by looking up on a clear night. Those are the ones that used to start wars and topple monarchs.

[rainwater]

the last year or so i cant even find Orion in the nite sky.
too much ground light from deserty lands.

[Glennfs]

I split solar-terrestrial phenomena into another thread because while they might have a minor and poorly understood effect on our weather, they are basically space based.

The aurora lasted one night. Indeed, a strong flow of various charged particles shifted the planet's magnetic field, and when magnetic fields move in the presence of electric conductors, you have a generator by any other name. Along with excited gas molecules making aurora in the sky, the ground becomes charged and power companies can have long nights. Also satellites arc and have to be replaced sooner.

This one also charged the polar ionosphere more than most, and so you can forget about navigation aids for the duration at that latitude. GPS doesn't work, short wave radio doesn't work, and satellites need radio waves and those are being absorbed. This phenomenon is actually caused by the first high-energy particles reaching Earth within hours rather than days, and it tends to persist for 2-3 days.

The solar explosions are huge. They're caused by intense magnetic fields around sunspots breaking or shorting out, thus liberating energy. Were the Earth anywhere near one, it would vaporize, but then it wouldn't last much longer that close to the sun anyway.

Not a flicker in LA. There was farther south but here it was foggy. Couldn't see it.

New York is farther north, and the photos of the aurora competing with Midtown Manhattan lights are rather striking. One shot making the rounds was of Central Park with aurora. THAT is bright.

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There are some photos of the comet making the rounds. It's a big one. It's a major comet for sure, but it's awfully close to the sun. I like the ones that you see just by looking up on a clear night. Those are the ones that used to start wars and topple monarchs.

Did you see the article that said a major earthquake would leave LA waterless for 6 months or more?

[ZoWie]

In general LA would be uninhabitable for a lot longer than that. Just disposing of the dead bodies would take months. Getting everyone's power back is six months easy, probably more. There's a certain sense of whistling past the graveyard inherent to living here. Maybe that's why the more tractable problems get ignored. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Far as astronomy goes, the city light combines with the mist from the sea that gets trapped by the inversion layer, so you're lucky to see anything dimmer than Venus. The air used to be very good for astronomy above the inversion like on Mount Wilson, because the wind just didn't blow much at that altitude and all the pollution stayed below it. But they stuck another two million people in this arid little basin, and now it's not so great there either.

However, it seems like the latest generation of telescopes is in space. Different set of problems there.

[rainwater]

the ever growing need for power. lights. camera. action.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/amazon-g ... 831a117014
Why Tech Giants Are Pouring Money Into Next-Generation Nuclear Reactors---
A burgeoning renaissance for the green energy technology has reached Silicon Valley.

After decades of decline, nuclear power is making a dramatic comeback amid surging demand for electricity and growing recognition that solar panels and wind turbines alone are insufficient to replace fossil fuels.
...

But artificial intelligence software is driving up demand at just the moment when policies to reduce planet-heating emissions from fossil fuels are nudging more Americans to replace fossil-fueled cars, stoves and heaters with electric alternatives. .....

Yet those renewables require vast areas of land and new transmission lines that remain difficult to permit in the U.S., limiting how much the investments actually expanded the pie internet servers were eating. With the appetite from AI now threatening to devour ever-larger amounts of electricity on the grid, Silicon Valley giants are embracing the most efficient and abundant source of electricity ever harnessed — tapping the heat released from splitting atoms. ....

[ZoWie]

I can't watch CNBC any more. They continue to treat NVIDIA as the second coming of Christ. They're watching utility stocks, to see if we can make a buck on the destruction of the environment and all the first-generation disaster-waiting-to-happen nuke plants coming back online.

They're gonna love it when the Earth becomes uninhabitable. They'll be right on camera until the power goes out, telling us to invest in funeral homes, graveyards, and undertakers.

[rainwater]

I can't watch CNBC any more. They continue to treat NVIDIA as the second coming of Christ. They're watching utility stocks, to see if we can make a buck on the destruction of the environment and all the first-generation disaster-waiting-to-happen nuke plants coming back online.

They're gonna love it when the Earth becomes uninhabitable. They'll be right on camera until the power goes out, telling us to invest in funeral homes, graveyards, and undertakers.

housing crash years i was doing stocks...pennys but i did good. in PT time squawk box
europe i could get at 9;30pm...they dealt with the reality of what was happening
globally due to their banks, led by ours. watched hour of that most nights.
our money guys made light of most of it. europe did not. fwiw

[ZoWie]

European news has its own set of biases. BBC will never say anything bad about the Lucky Sperm Club, but they will notice when US economics have gone off the rails... again...

Also C-SPAN is right now discussing whether Musk should be allowed to fund Trump's whole campaign for him, when it's so obvious that it's to kill any attempts to regulate TWITTER. Of course, C-SPAN has as much effect on reality as doing a rain dance.

[rainwater]

missing the huge full moon beneath the low grey rain sky.

[ZoWie]

Your low grey rain sky always gives us the santa ana wind.

I hate santa ana wind. The first one is always the worst. It picks up all the toxic crud between the ocean and the desert that's been accumulating on everything for three or four months of LA sunshine, and it throws it at us. Then the hills, which have been drying out for the entire period, catch fire all at once and assets have to come from the entire North American continent to save the place. All the smoke and ash gets blown at us too. You can often pick up the ash and read a few words on it. The LA Times used to be common. Sometimes you'd see a portion of a headline about the fire.

For some reason, perhaps relating to ionization of the air, all this gives most people euphoria, but I just get allergies.

[Number6]

Your low grey rain sky always gives us the santa ana wind.

I hate santa ana wind. The first one is always the worst. It picks up all the toxic crud between the ocean and the desert that's been accumulating on everything for three or four months of LA sunshine, and it throws it at us. Then the hills, which have been drying out for the entire period, catch fire all at once and assets have to come from the entire North American continent to save the place. All the smoke and ash gets blown at us too. You can often pick up the ash and read a few words on it. The LA Times used to be common. Sometimes you'd see a portion of a headline about the fire.

For some reason, perhaps relating to ionization of the air, all this gives most people euphoria, but I just get allergies.

Santa Anna winds tend to pick up dust, pollution, pollen, etc.. and deposit it everywhere. I don't care much for Santa Anna winds mainly because the air is dry and full of dust which land on my car and I have to dust it off and wash my car windows. If we have normal humidity then that doesn't happen and my car stays shiny and clean.

[ap215]

Oscar makes landfall in Cuba, could lead to 'humanitarian crisis': Updates

Oscar made landfall in eastern Cuba Sunday evening amid a power blackout, adding to fears that the storm may prove to be especially dangerous.

Oscar made landfall as a Category 1 hurricane near the city of Baracoa shortly before 6 p.m. ET just hours after landfalling in the Bahamas, according to the National Hurricane Center. By 11 p.m. ET, Oscar's maximum sustained winds decreased from 75 mph to 70 mph.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wea ... 763514007/

[Greengrass]

Oscar makes landfall in Cuba, could lead to 'humanitarian crisis': Updates

Oscar made landfall in eastern Cuba Sunday evening amid a power blackout, adding to fears that the storm may prove to be especially dangerous.

Oscar made landfall as a Category 1 hurricane near the city of Baracoa shortly before 6 p.m. ET just hours after landfalling in the Bahamas, according to the National Hurricane Center. By 11 p.m. ET, Oscar's maximum sustained winds decreased from 75 mph to 70 mph.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wea ... 763514007/

This is on top of the previous days complete and total failure of the their electric generation system.


“ Cubans took to the streets in protest as widespread blackouts stretched into their fourth day, their concerns heightened as Hurricane Oscar crossed the island’s eastern coast with winds and heavy rain.”

https://apnews.com/article/cuba-power-b ... af0c5a6e75

“ Cuba's electrical grid collapsed again on Sunday, the fourth such failure in 48 hours, raising fresh doubts about a quick fix on an island already suffering from severe shortages of food, fuel and medicine.
The blackout, after weeks of rolling outages, sparked some small protests around the Caribbean island, where a tropical storm threatened to hamper efforts to restore power.
Cuba's national electrical grid first crashed around midday on Friday after the island's largest power plant shut down, sowing chaos and leaving around 10 million people in the dark. The grid has collapsed three times since, underscoring the precarious state of the country's infrastructure.”


https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 024-10-20/

[ZoWie]

At least Cuba won't have to worry about power failures, since it's already still off in the western 3/4 of the island. Even their radio broadcasts to spies have stopped.

[ap215]

New York City Could Start Implementing Water Restrictions

Uncommonly dry weather has spurred concerns in New York City, and one meteorologist said the city could soon start asking citizens to conserve water if the pattern continues. As of Monday, all of New York City was considered abnormally dry, which is the first stage in the U.S. Drought Monitor's map.

National Weather Service (NWS) meteorologists have urged people in some Northeastern states to use caution with ignition sources, as conditions are favorable for wildfires. It's been the driest start to the autumn season in over a century, New York City news website Gothamist reported.

https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-city- ... ht-1972273

[ap215]

Hurricane Kristy becomes first Category 5 storm without El Niño since 2010

Hurricane Kristy strengthened into a Category 5 hurricane in the Pacific Ocean on Thursday evening, becoming the first hurricane to do so without an El Niño since Hurricane Celia in 2010.

This is a pretty interesting feat, as typically with an El Niño, you have warmer water on the east Pacific and also lower wind shear, lending to easier development of stronger storms.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hurricane-kri ... 41759.html

[ZoWie]

Right, El Nino, or to be exact, the absence thereof, is as good a bet in weather forecasting as you'll ever get when it comes to the number and strength of tropical cyclones in the East Pacific. They should have been fewer and weaker. I don't know about the fewer part, but there's a cat 5 when there shouldn't have been this year.

But keep telling me that the climate doesn't change. With all the other bad ideas getting traction since the rise of Internet, at least that one can give me a good laugh at times.

[ap215]

Spain flash floods: Spanish government declares three days of mourning as dozens killed after torrential rain – latest updates

Local officials across Spain have warned residents to heed only official channels amid concerns about misinformation circulating on social media.

Carlos Mazón, the leader of the Valencia region, said Wednesday that hoaxes had circulated about further flooding and evacuation orders being issued for municipalities He urged people to consult “only official channels.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... atest-news

[rainwater]

theres not enough wood...lumber...one time tree...left on the planet to rebuild any of this
ongoing destruction.

[ZoWie]

The materials are out there if we use them wisely. We don't do that because we made them commodities traded on weird exchanges you've never heard of. At some point, the head went so far up the butt that it stopped thinking clearly.

[rainwater]

the ranch was not far from this, from Larkspur. it looked down out over the plains.
it would have been a high point, dinosaur bones 200ft below the low ground...said the museum.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1072102
A Tropical Rainforest in Colorado 1.4 Million Years After the Cretaceous-Tertiary Boundary
28June2002

[rainwater]

The materials are out there if we use them wisely. We don't do that because we made them commodities traded on weird exchanges you've never heard of. At some point, the head went so far up the butt that it stopped thinking clearly.

i doubt theres enough tree lumber left on the planet to do much at all.
they are raging war in the amazon against those trying to clear cut it.
we know how that will turn out.

beyond that...find a forest with trees bigger than 1-2ft around.

theres nothing in the natural background of most of what they film.
its all gone.

the aspen tree rhyzome is basically a One root system, screw with one you screw with
them all. aspens are now in decline due to overcrowding since they OverTook the Land
once the pines were clear cut leaving nothing but dirt for the aspen rhyzome root.
its why CO looks orange all fall, brown during summer. dying aspen. the rest is gone.

[ZoWie]

Clearcutting is indeed a major problem. They try to make it look good, but we know better.

Say, how much of this political stuff do you think is a distraction to keep the status quo for big business? Odd that the more stark the problem gets, the more we hear about illegal aliens causing every problem, and the more all of those people who consume too much media turn into malleable true believers.

[ap215]

Thunderstorms bring widespread damage to northern Missouri

Residents across northern Missouri experienced severe weather on October 30, 2024, as thunderstorms brought strong winds, power outages, and property damage to the region.

The National Weather Service in Kansas City/Pleasant Hill provided detailed reports on the incidents.

https://www.kttn.com/thunderstorms-brin ... -missouri/