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ProfX wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:27 pm His race is totally irrelevant.

So is his religion per se.

Fundamentalist Islamism is an ideology, not one that all Muslims subscribe to. Not all Muslims embrace ISIS, al-Qaeda, or what guys like this do. MOST don't.

Just like the QAnon Christian Reconstructionists or whatnot blowing up abortion clinics and setting fire to them don't represent Christianity.

BTW: the JDL freaks who tried to blow up a mosque out in CA don't represent me, either, nor settler maniacs in the West Bank who attack and kill Palestinian kids.
Please repeat that first line next time someone generalizes some crime with white people
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:36 pm Please repeat that first line next time someone generalizes some crime with white people
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:40 pmchicago
I have never mentioned race when talking about Chicago murders and shootings.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:41 pm I have never mentioned race when talking about Chicago murders and shootings.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:41 pm I have never mentioned race when talking about Chicago murders and shootings.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But you sure as hell insinuate the shit out of it, don't you?

Answer HONESTLY, for once.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:41 pm I have never mentioned race when talking about Chicago murders and shootings.
You sure as hell have sited gun violence in Chicago on more occasions than I care to count. Yours is weasle answer.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:36 pm Please repeat that first line next time someone generalizes some crime with white people
I've never seen anybody do that. Not here, anyway.

P.S. in case you've missed it a few times "conservatives whites != all white people".
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:36 pmsomeone generalizes some crime with white people
I do not recall any member of this forum doing that. But you sure as fuck generalize about gun violence is Chicago one helluva lot.
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Glennfs keeps calling me a racist!!1!!!

I’m gunna go get my lawyer and shut down this dumb ol’ board, boo hoooo!
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Cons continue to say "white people" and "white cons" are the same, they arent.

I am white and not a white con, so I dont vote for people who assure me their main priority is continued white supremacy.

White people dont necessarily do that, but white cons always do.
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Libertas wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:53 pm Cons continue to say "white people" and "white cons" are the same, they arent.

I am white and not a white con, so I dont vote for people who assure me their main priority is continued white supremacy.

White people dont necessarily do that, but white cons always do.
That clown takes no issue with literally anyone else who actually does make generalizations about so-called whites.

But then, watch his reaction to a story about negro crime or a Muslim shooting up something, then contrast it with his defensiveness in story after story after story of white-conservative mass murderers and domestic terrorists.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:09 pm Glennfs keeps calling me a racist!!1!!!

I’m gunna go get my lawyer and shut down this dumb ol’ board, boo hoooo!
What's that you say, Glenn is using SLANDER against you?

I guess it only counts when slander is used against low life scum sucking Cons (read Glenn).
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marindem01 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:59 pm What's that you say, Glenn is using SLANDER against you?
I am an auntie!!

I have Black best friends!!

I just can’t afford to have them go on the internet read that I am a RACISTTTTTT doesn’t annyboddy care!
I guess it only counts when slander is used against low life scum sucking Cons (read Glenn).
Well, there’s still time left in the day. Give it time. The lecture about having a dream and content of character is coming. All the cons are doing it, today. :problem:
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IF race is not important to Glenn, then why did Glenn want to the race of suspect in Texas? Glenn said he does not care about race, but clearly he does.
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marindem01 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:18 pm IF race is not important to Glenn, then why did Glenn want to the race of suspect in Texas? Glenn said he does not care about race, but clearly he does.
Ohh it’s the “perps”.

Somewhere, he picked up the idea that there was more than one, I guess.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:07 pm I am an auntie!!

I have Black best friends!!

I just can’t afford to have them go on the internet read that I am a RACISTTTTTT doesn’t annyboddy care!


Well, there’s still time left in the day. Give it time. The lecture about having a dream and content of character is coming. All the cons are doing it, today. :problem:
Watching GOP putting MLK name in their disgusting mouths while making sure Black people either cant vote or will have to work 100 times harder than they do, to vote, makes me sick.

Then it really wont matter if we vote, they aren't going to count our votes in red states. Period, from now on. Talk about PROBLEM...this is why I truly believe civil unrest nationwide is coming.
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Libertas wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:25 pm Watching GOP putting MLK name in their disgusting mouths while making sure Black people either cant vote or will have to work 100 times harder than they do, to vote, makes me sick.

Then it really wont matter if we vote, they aren't going to count our votes in red states. Period, from now on. Talk about PROBLEM...this is why I truly believe civil unrest nationwide is coming.
Glennfs is only posting in this thread to vindicate the reputation of so-called whites.

There are so many sociopathic people like this, as shooting after shooting occurs at the nation’s synagogues. This isn’t even getting into how they torch and mass murder gurudwaras, mosques, Black churches, and desecrate Jewish and Muslim cemeteries.
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The rise of domestic extremism in America - WP
Data shows a surge in homegrown
incidents not seen in a quarter-century


Domestic terrorism incidents have soared to new highs in the United States, driven chiefly by white-supremacist, anti-Muslim and anti-government extremists on the far right, according to a Washington Post analysis of data compiled by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths.

“What is most concerning is that the number of domestic terror plots and attacks are at the highest they have been in decades,” said Seth Jones, director of the database project at CSIS, a nonpartisan Washington-based nonprofit that specializes in national security issues. “It’s so important for Americans to understand the gravity of the threat before it gets worse.”
Victims of all incidents in recent years represent a broad cross-section of American society, including Blacks, Jews, immigrants, LGBTQ individuals, Asians and other people of color who have been attacked by right-wing extremists wielding vehicles, guns, knives and fists.
Dozens of religious institutions — including mosques, synagogues and Black churches — as well as abortion clinics and government buildings, have been threatened, burned, bombed and hit with gunfire over the past six years.
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Query to Glenn (that means a question Glenn), IF race is not important to you, then why did YOU ask the race person who took hostages in Texas. Why did you ask his religion? Seem to me Glenn you have been caught in yet another lie. Also why do you slander Carmen, we all know how much you hate that.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:35 pm Glennfs is only posting in this thread to vindicate the reputation of so-called whites.

There are so many sociopathic people like this, as shooting after shooting occurs at the nation’s synagogues. This isn’t even getting into how they torch and mass murder gurudwaras, mosques, Black churches, and desecrate Jewish and Muslim cemeteries.
The leader of their party that they love so much when he and his son in law found out covid was killing mostly Democrats, decided not to deal with Covid.

They are all mass murderers, and I refuse to talk to mass murderers.
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The FBI is investigating the Texas hostage standoff as a 'terrorism-related' incident, the agency says - CNN

Interesting.
As the FBI investigates the Colleyville, Texas, hostage standoff as terror-related, the rabbi who was officiating services at the synagogue recalled Monday tossing a chair at the armed intruder before he and his congregants escaped.

Recounting Saturday's "terrifying" encounter to CBS, Rabbi Charlie Cytron-Walker said his experience as a "calm presence" in hospital rooms and other difficult moments helped him remain collected during the hostage situation.
The deceased hostage taker -- whom authorities have identified as 44-year-old Malik Faisal Akram -- first knocked on a glass door, and Cytron-Walker thought he needed shelter, he said. He let him in, made him tea and didn't find anything suspicious, the rabbi told CBS.
Same M.O. as that South Carolina terrorist Dylann Roof.

Sorry but IDK how anyone can read things like this and conclude that religion poisons everything.

And I definitely don’t remember the FBI investigation of that massacre as a terror plot. What I do remember is the national admonitions that Black people must forgive the WN mass murderer. :problem:

Whereas, when it’s acts of antisemitism, it’s a rarity when it even makes the mainstream news at all. :x
It was during the Sabbath service's prayer, when the rabbi had his back turned as he and the other worshipers faced Jerusalem, that he heard a click, he said.
"It turned out that it was his gun," Cytron-Walker told the network.

He's taken security courses focusing on this type of situation, which taught him he needed to get himself and his flock to safety. There was a moment during the hostage negotiations in which Akram was not getting what he wanted, and "it didn't look good. It didn't sound good. We were terrified," the rabbi said. That's when he decided to take a chance on escaping.
I have not attended many, but the synagogues I’ve been to in the city have metal detectors and tight security for a reason. Prominent liberal churches around here do, too.
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2 More Arrested in U.K. in Case Linked to Texas Synagogue Standoff - NYT
Police officers in England arrested two more men on Wednesday in connection with a hostage situation at a Texas synagogue earlier this month.

A British man, Malik Faisal Akram, 44, who took four people hostage at the synagogue in Colleyville, Texas, was killed during the rescue that helped free the hostages unharmed.

Mr. Akram lived in Blackburn in northern England. The men arrested on Wednesday were taken into custody in the nearby city of Manchester as part of a local investigation by counterterrorism officers from the region, the police said in a statement, adding that they were “working closely with” the authorities in the United States. The men arrested on Wednesday were not identified, but the police said they remained in custody “for questioning.”

The arrests came after revelations from British and American officials that Mr. Akram, 44, had been “a subject of interest” on a security watch list of MI5, Britain’s domestic counterintelligence service. An investigation in 2020 by the agency concluded that Mr. Akram was not a terrorist threat at that time.
Good.

It will be good when all these white-conservative mass-murdering ideologues who shoot 'em up will also be investegated in this country under counterterrorism measures.
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