Democrats Might Want to Put Her in Charge

[bradman]

Leave it to Democrats to split the party now and fuckup midterms.

I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. [Will Rogers]

[ZoWie]

The party needs new blood, therefore its failed aristocracy needs to step aside. In particular, the harassment of David Hogg has to stop. They're just worried that a gun safety activist will lose the rural areas, but the party has lost those anyway.

We need a party that kicks ass and names names. That's how the Republicans did it. They rode in on the reaction to the late 20th century equality Thing, even though the push for equality is an important and necessary dialog. However the clock ticks, taking no prisoners, and now the Democrats have to play in the real world that we have, not the one they'd like to have.

[bradman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin
Minnesota DFL chair
Ken Martin

When Martin was elected chair of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party in 2011, he inherited a state party deeply in debt[16] after significant election losses, including losing the majority in the state senate for the first time in 40 years, the majority in the House of Representatives, and one of the longest-held Democratic seats in Congress with the defeat of Jim Oberstar in Minnesota's 8th congressional district.[17]

In the 2012 Minnesota elections, the DFL regained majorities in both houses of the state legislature;[18] Minnesota became the first state to defeat a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage;[19] a voter ID constitutional amendment was defeated;[20] and DFL nominee Rick Nolan won in the 8th congressional district.[21]

In 2014, Governor Dayton and U.S. Senator Al Franken were reelected.[22] Each had first been elected by a margin of less than 1% of the vote.[23]

In 2016, Minnesota was one of only two Midwestern states to vote for the Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton.[24] In addition, despite losses of rural congressional seats throughout the country, the DFL won all three of its rural congressional races, reelecting Nolan, Tim Walz, and Collin Peterson.[25]

Martin in 2017
In 2018, Walz was elected governor, marking the first time the DFL had had three consecutive terms in the governor's office.[26] In addition, the DFL won every constitutional office; won back the majority in the State House of Representatives;[27] flipped two congressional seats from red to blue, one of which had been held by Republicans for over 40 years; and elected two women to the U.S. Senate, Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith,[28] becoming only the fifth state to be represented by two women in the Senate simultaneously.[29] Also in 2018, after trying for many years, Martin persuaded Dean Phillips to run for Congress in Minnesota's 3rd district. Phillips defeated the incumbent, Republican Erik Paulsen, and was reelected in 2020 and 2022.[30]


Martin in 2020
After coming within 1.5% of winning Minnesota in 2016, Donald Trump's campaign heavily invested in winning Minnesota in 2020.[31][32] These investments included millions in advertising and over 60 campaign staffers.[33] With the DFL's influence, Democratic nominee Joe Biden won Minnesota with 52.40% of the vote to Trump's 45.28%.[34] Tina Smith was also reelected to the Senate, the DFL held the State House of Representatives and the two congressional seats the party flipped from red to blue in 2018, and it flipped three Republican-held State Senate seats.[35]

On February 6, 2021, Martin was elected to a sixth term as chairman of the DFL Party,[36] making him the longest-serving chairman in the party's 75-year history.[37] The Star Tribune noted that the DFL had recently seen a slew of wins statewide and raised around three times as much funding as the state Republican Party in his first 10 years as chair. By the time of Martin's reelection, the Minnesota DFL had $2.5 million in the bank compared to the Republicans' $55,000.[36]

I'm willing to give Martin a chance.

Now more than ever is the time for all of us to put aside our differences and come together as one solid voting block. Cuz we maybe able to survive two years but if Trump wins midterms we are all screwed. Win midterms and there's hope a real civil war could be avoided. Lose midterms and Trump has a free hand for a full 4.

[ZoWie]

With this cabinet of druggies, retards, and Faux Nooz hosts, we are already very, very screwed.

The midterms ARE critical to preventing the United States from literally becoming a banana republic. If this Democratic infighting continues, it will definitely go a long way to make that exact situation come about. That is what the fascists and the monarchists and the oligarchs want us to do, and we are currently serving their purpose amazingly well.

There must be party unity. I realize that making Democrats unify is akin to cat herding, but we'd better unite prontito or it's all over for that 250-year experiment in responsible leadership known as the United States of America.

[bradman]

Screwed yes, Totally screwed, not quite yet.

This coming summer will determine that.

[ap215]

Two Top Union Leaders Quit D.N.C. Posts in Dispute With Chairman

The leaders of two of the nation’s largest and most influential labor unions have quit their posts in the Democratic National Committee in a major rebuke to party’s new chairman, Ken Martin.

Randi Weingarten, the longtime leader of the American Federation of Teachers and a major voice in Democratic politics, and Lee Saunders, the president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, have told Mr. Martin they will decline offers to remain at-large members of the national party.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/15/us/p ... UUP408MWE9

[Motor City]

Ken Martin has a platform to lament the most recent gun violence While David Hogg is silenced by the party, thats regression.

[ZoWie]

Yes, classic regression to the mean. The Democrats seem scared and their leadership sees Republican Lite as the answer. This, of course, is the worst thing to do. You don't fight a reactionary movement by becoming part of the reaction.

[bradman]

Cater to the base and we lose the center. Cater to the center and we lose the base. It's quite the dilemma eh.

[bradman]

divide et impera

I'd like to think it's what MAGA had planned all the way along. But in reality the Democratic party is doing a fine job of it without the help of the Republican party. We always have. Fucking liberals. We couldn't plan our way out of a wet paper bag.

I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. [Will Rogers]

It's time we put away our differences......

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately"

They came for the Latino's first......................................

[ZoWie]

It's hardly a new situation. I can't remember a time when Democrats were unified on anything. Meanwhile, Republicans happily receive their marching orders and move as one disciplined unit.

[bradman]

It's hardly a new situation. I can't remember a time when Democrats were unified on anything. Meanwhile, Republicans happily receive their marching orders and move as one disciplined unit.

We only come together in time of need. Hopefully we won't wait until the last minute like we always seem to.

[ZoWie]

I suspect that, with Marines in the streets of LA, and the spreading of war throughout the Middle East threatening to involve US air strikes, that this may be the last minute.

[ap215]

Young Democrats see Hogg’s power growing outside DNC

Many young Democrats see David Hogg’s exit from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as potentially accelerating his push to wage progressive primary challenges to middle-of-the-road incumbents.

That sentiment was bolstered on Tuesday with Zohran Mamdani’s stunning primary win in New York City’s mayoral race.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... ts-future/

[ZoWie]

I agree that right now the most important revolution is in the Democratic Party. The American people want new thinking, and the current party leadership is too committed to older priorities to deliver it.

[rainwater]

weve evolved into and become the app culture. the podcast society. where we must/can be/are educated
by those with podcasts. those who can make an audience with their own personal chatter.

i could set up the pod and chatter into it, say something outrageous find an audience who prefers
the outrageous and speak to them, making them feel they have a friend ON PUBLIC AIRWAVES...
like they know someone important!!..because they can chatter on a pod.

btw..this does not make any thing i may say honest reputable or helpful beyond finding a way to pay me
the podcaster..for telling you lies or whatever bullshit i may spew.

it was one thing when it was just simply..talk radio. this pod shit chatter is...silly. demeaning. irrelevant
despite its play as 'important'.

its not. is just more chatter bullshit.
the rw has shot chatter up with crank leaving it all a large messy pool of unknowns the public now gravitates.

think about the rurals the really undergrounds...all chattering into the air waves spewing any bullshit they
can make up...anyone can do this now.
anyone can talk shit across airwaves now...and this is sppsd to be AI improving life....really.

[ZoWie]

You might remember Marshall McLuhan.

He became famous for suggesting the obvious, that TV Nooz had become the new global subconscious of the entire US. It swung elections. You look at old b/w news footage and you see within seconds why Nixon lost an election due to a 5 o'clock shadow on primitive monochrome TV with only 525 scan lines and bad lighting, as received on bent antennas too close to the ground to clearly receive crappy NTSC grunge from distant transmitters.

Nothing has changed except the medium. Now it's two-way. The kids and the whackos get to play too. The transmission method (transport layer in the jargon) now corrects for path loses.

For a while, this looked like an improvement. It made a huge difference for about eight years. For a brief moment, it appeared that traditional top-down politics run by those who owned the means of communication was on the way out, and the people might even have a voice. (Horrors!)

Fortunately for the money people, there was a solution. They bought up the new media and made them like the old media only more convincing. The old oligarchy was replaced by a new one.

Now the kids and the whackos get to be content creators too. In other words, we've taken everything bad about the old system and given the means of accessing it to every kid, psycho, and sex case in the country.

What did we expect? The only thing worse than the cops running the prison is when the prisoners get to run the prison.

[ap215]

Stephen A. Smith: Democrats will ‘have no chance’ if they become like Mamdani

Stephen A. Smith warned Democrats on Monday not to back candidates whose politics resemble those of New York City mayoral primary winner Zohran Mamdani.

“Let me be very, very clear. If the Democratic Party becomes the likes of Zohran Mamdani — who, by the way, I like, I’m not trying to throw any shade on him or anything like that — if the Democratic Party becomes him, you have no chance,” Smith said during a Monday episode of the “Stephen A. Smith Show.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... e-mamdani/

[ap215]

Jewish Democrats in Congress sound the alarm on Mamdani

Jewish Democrats on Capitol Hill are raising concerns about New York Assembly member Zohran Mamdani’s victory in the Democratic primary for New York City mayor, arguing his refusal to condemn the phrase “globalize the intifada” or recognize Israel as a Jewish state could be dangerous during the current moment of rising antisemitism in the U.S.

Mamdani, a self-described Democratic socialist, bested a crowded field of Democratic mayoral hopefuls last month on a message largely focused on affordability in the city. But his ascension has been accompanied by intense scrutiny of his statements related to Israel, including his support for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, accusing Israel of apartheid after Hamas’s Oct. 7, 2023, attack and stopping short of denouncing the saying “globalize the intifada” or calling Israel a Jewish state.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5390 ... n-mamdani/

[Libertas]

The piece of shit has announced his Maga Federal Nazi government will take over big cities like Washington DC and New York, etc.

This will happen because the courts will not stop him and Maga can’t wait until all non-maga are dead or in prison, something I said on this very board years ago and was screamed at for

[bradman]

The piece of shit has announced his Maga Federal Nazi government will take over big cities like Washington DC and New York, etc.

This will happen because the courts will not stop him and Maga can’t wait until all non-maga are dead or in prison, something I said on this very board years ago and was screamed at for

It's the Unitary executive theory on steroids.

[Libertas]

I see today The piece of shit said he’s gonna go ahead and deport Rosie O’Donnell because she criticized him.

Do you remember when I said things on here like Trump or maga would gladly kill thousands of us if they could and I got yelled at? It might’ve been even before they were known as maga.

I was told I was way over the top and ridiculous, I knew I wasn’t at the time and I had really hoped more people understood where we were.

I will hate with a passion for the rest of my life Anyone who said they had to “hold their nose” to vote for Hillary and they made sure people heard them say it, especially people who were on the fence and ended up not voting at all when they heard that shit.

Just like 2024 when progressives refused to vote for Kamala Harris because of Gaza so they paved the way for someone who was thousands of times worse than any Democrat on Gaza… madness, and insanity and irresponsibility and I hate those people as well.

[bradman]

i remember a lot of things you said.

It was always the manner of the way it was expressed that turned some off.

[Libertas]

My manner was blunt trying to warn people.

It did no good

[bradman]

My manner was blunt trying to warn people.

It did no good

So blunt didn't work?