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So now Arnold Schwarzenegger has denounced Trump and endorsed Harris.

Wow, Ted, that’s BIG momentum for The Donald!
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:29 pm So now Arnold Schwarzenegger has denounced Trump and endorsed Harris.

Wow, Ted, that’s BIG momentum for The Donald!
The members of the Teamsters Union voted overwhelmingly to endorse President Trump over Vice President Harris and President Biden is trying to walk back comments about Trump supporters being garbage.

I don't put too much weight on endorsements or rhetoric.

This election cycle has been filled with so many twists and turns that nothing would surprise me at this point. She might win a landslide victory. He might win the popular vote. Bob Joyce might actually be Elvis Presley.
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Ted wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:11 pm The members of the Teamsters Union voted overwhelmingly to endorse President Trump over Vice President Harris and President Biden is trying to walk back comments about Trump supporters being garbage.

I don't put too much weight on endorsements or rhetoric.

This election cycle has been filled with so many twists and turns that nothing would surprise me at this point. She might win a landslide victory. He might win the popular vote. Bob Joyce might actually be Elvis Presley.
You seem to only see the negative on the Dem side. Interesting.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:52 pm You seem to only see the negative on the Dem side. Interesting.
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Pretty funny when he talks about momentum, he talks about a union vote from months ago, and ignores the crazed racism from Sunday, and the fact that everyone is walking out of his tiny rallies.

THAT isn’t a momentum issue?
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:00 pm Pretty funny when he talks about momentum, he talks about a union vote from months ago, and ignores the crazed racism from Sunday, and the fact that everyone is walking out of his tiny rallies.

THAT isn’t a momentum issue?

Why are you afraid to give a personal opinion on any subject. Even one as simple of which candidate will win these states.
You are definitely a head scratcher.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:37 am Why are you afraid to give a personal opinion on any subject. Even one as simple of which candidate will win these states.
You are definitely a head scratcher.
Glenn, I gave a full, long prediction. I don’t know what each state will be.
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55 seconds in....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XznQin7BfBE

i feel like that all the time now. :mrgreen:
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gounion wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:18 am Glenn, I gave a full, long prediction. I don’t know what each state will be.
Because that would require a personal opinion and an original thought.
Saying you believe Harris will won is just a copout.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:34 pm Because that would require a personal opinion and an original thought.
Saying you believe Harris will won is just a copout.
Oh well.
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bradman wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:21 pm Polling is all over the place. One day Harris has a 4 point lead, the next day Trump. Most polls nowadays seem politically motivated to the point where they resemble an endorsement. Not so much the likes of say 538, but with the current circus going on i'd take those with a grain of salt also.

The one thing i absolutely do know, it's not going to be the landslide i desire. i wouldn't even need a landslide and would settle for some wide margins. So ya, i don't see stop the steal going away anytime soon. Yay.
“ Trump and Harris are both a normal polling error away from a blowout”

https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-harris ... =115283593

Maybe
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Greengrass wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:37 pm “ Trump and Harris are both a normal polling error away from a blowout”

https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-harris ... =115283593

Maybe

If the polling is consistent with 16 and 20 Trump wins between 280 and 300ish
If they have fixed the polling numbers then Harris wins between 280 and 300ish
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:52 pm If the polling is consistent with 16 and 20 Trump wins between 280 and 300ish
If they have fixed the polling numbers then Harris wins between 280 and 300ish
What about the "red wave" polling in 2022, two years ago? That's the most recent.

But how's this for momentum, Ted? https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4963 ... ment-2024/
The Economist announced Thursday that the outlet is backing Vice President Harris over former President Trump in the upcoming election, now less than a week away.

“While some newspapers refused to back a presidential candidate this year, today The Economist is endorsing Kamala Harris,” Economist editors wrote in the endorsement published early Thursday. “Tens of millions of Americans will vote for Mr. Trump next week. Some will be true believers. But many will take a calculated risk that in office his worst instincts would be constrained.”

The writers added later that if Trump were to win election, “Americans would be gambling with the economy, the rule of law and international peace.”

The announcement comes amid controversy over major publications like USA Today and The Washington Post, which decided not to endorse a presidential candidate this campaign cycle. The Post reportedly lost more than 200,000 digital subscribers in light of its decision, according to NPR.

“Harris’s shortcomings, by contrast, are ordinary. And none of them are disqualifying,” The Economist endorsement reads. “If The Economist had a vote, we would cast it for her.”
They don't believe the candidates are equal. Why do you?
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Something for gounion.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics ... 352476007/

Alllan Lichtman predicts Vice President Harris will win the election based on his 13 keys. He's been correct 90% of the time. Will he be correct this year?

We'll find out soon.
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Ted wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:09 pm Something for gounion.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics ... 352476007/

Alllan Lichtman predicts Vice President Harris will win the election based on his 13 keys. He's been correct 90% of the time. Will he be correct this year?

We'll find out soon.
I certainly see momentum for Harris, not Trump. I can't see anything that's gone right for him for weeks. All he's doing now is screaming that the dems are cheating so he can try to get the Supreme Court to name him President like they did for Bush in 2000.

I will be running a voting center on election day, won't probably be home until after 10, and will go straight to sleep, as I then have to get up early to go retrieve voting materials from voting centers the next morning.
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Trump fantasizes and says Liz Cheney should be executed, and not one of our conservatives will say “this is not right - this man CANNOT be President.”

AND if someone shoots her, all of conservatives will say “no one could have foreseen that, and it’s not Trump’s fault.”

While it IS Harris’ fault that Trump had attempts.

Such is right-wing logic.
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I notice our conservatives say nothing about The Economist points about Trump. That he will have no guardrails this time around. There won’t be any General Kellys to tell him no. It’s all going to be all MAGA, all the time. Going to put Robert Kennedy Jr. in charge of our health system, fer Chrissakes. Going to put Michael Flynn in charge of the military. And a Supreme Court that says he’s immune.

Going to have the military in charge of mass deportations in this nation, and he really doesn’t care if they are citizens or not, he’ll deport them.

He’s out for revenge and retribution, and you’re all “oh, that’s okay, no big deal”.

And if he wins, your time on this board will be spent telling us that whatever Trump does is just fine, much better than Harris would have done.
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“ The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law.”
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Greengrass wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:18 am “ The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law.”
Yeah, right up until the Supreme Court ignores the order.

Trump won’t mind anyway - he’ll just ignore the Court when he wants to. No one on the right will lift a finger.

But that’s fine with you.
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What really gets me about you guys on the right is that you whined and went on about having a President with dementia (which Biden DOES NOT HAVE) but you have no problem with Trump, with obvious dementia and delusions, being President.

You’ll argue any side of things. It’s what happens when you have no principles.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:08 am Yeah, right up until the Supreme Court ignores the order.

Trump won’t mind anyway - he’ll just ignore the Court when he wants to. No one on the right will lift a finger.

But that’s fine with you.
Not gonna happen.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:17 am What really gets me about you guys on the right is that you whined and went on about having a President with dementia (which Biden DOES NOT HAVE) but you have no problem with Trump, with obvious dementia and delusions, being President.

You’ll argue any side of things. It’s what happens when you have no principles.
I didn’t want Biden or trump. Hogan, Haley,Polis,Walz,Whitmer.
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Greengrass wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:58 pm I didn’t want Biden or trump. Hogan, Haley,Polis,Walz,Whitmer.
Well, Hogan sure wanted Trump’s endorsement.

But again, all the whining about Biden, nothing about Trump. You say things’ll be fine with Trump. Nothing to see here, folks.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:17 am What really gets me about you guys on the right is that you whined and went on about having a President with dementia (which Biden DOES NOT HAVE) but you have no problem with Trump, with obvious dementia and delusions, being President.

You’ll argue any side of things. It’s what happens when you have no principles.

Any person who denies Biden’s obvious dementia shouldn't be commenting on Trump’s obvious dementia.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:04 am Trump fantasizes and says Liz Cheney should be executed, and not one of our conservatives will say “this is not right - this man CANNOT be President.”

AND if someone shoots her, all of conservatives will say “no one could have foreseen that, and it’s not Trump’s fault.”

While it IS Harris’ fault that Trump had attempts.

Such is right-wing logic.


First you are wrong nobody is blaming Harris for the now three assassination attempts on Trump, at least nobody here

What is being said is the rhetoric Trump is Hitler etc is what is a leading cause to the violence we have seen.

As for Trump’s hateful speech and rhetoric. Of course it coukd and probably has lead to violence. Only a hypocrite or a person of low intelligence would claim or believe that hateful rhetoric coming from one party is leading to violence but not the hateful rhetoric from the other.

Don't you agree
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