GOP is pro-Putin, anti-USA

[Drak]

I mean, for fucks sakes there is an actual coup memo power point presentation on top of the other coup memos from Eastman etc.

[Glennfs]

You demand that they are charged and convicted BEFORE the crime is investigated?

We know there was a war room with Bannon and your hero Rudy at a nearby hotel running things. We know Trump was actively blocking any reinforcements.

Pretty damning, but hey, you're the one defending Trump and declaring his innocence.

It has been a year and not one person out of over 700 has been charged with anything except crimes related to rioting. There was no war room by federal law they had to plan the political rally away from federal property.
A fact I am sure you know but I doubt many of the low information democratic party supporters know.
Now if you were to say trump and the speakers on that day incited the riot that would be very difficult to oppose

[marindem01]

Here's the thing, Joe, we have a party that tried to take over this country by insurrection. Next time they say they're going to bring guns. And they may be able to, legally, as the Supreme Court is set to hear a case where they may overturn all gun laws in every city, so that anyone that wants to can openly carry any kind of gun, pistol or rifle. So they can have a rally at the capitol where everyone is armed to the teeth.

That's GOP logic.

And you will vote for it. You will vote for them. This is what you want. There's nothing they can do that will make you think twice about voting for them.

If they take over Congress in '22, they plan to make Trump the Speaker of the House (which, yes, they can do) and then he'll be third in succession to the Presidency.

This is insanity, yet you don't say a word, so, yes, it can be easy to see you're complicit.

Joe is one those, "I didn't Vote For Him" types. But sure as shit agrees with everything the Traitor says and everything the Traitor does.

Joe also hates to take responsibility for what he says and what he does. He dances, he bobs and he weaves. But he never takes responsibility. The perfect Con.

[gounion]

It has been a year and not one person out of over 700 has been charged with anything except crimes related to rioting. There was no war room by federal law they had to plan the political rally away from federal property.
A fact I am sure you know but I doubt many of the low information democratic party supporters know.
Now if you were to say trump and the speakers on that day incited the riot that would be very difficult to oppose

They wanted to overthrow the government. They tried to force Pence to refuse to open the votes and send the election to the Congress, where there is one vote per state, and the GOP has control of more states.

And you're fine with that.

If they had kidnapped and hung Pelosi, McConnell and Pence you would still be saying it was just a "protest gone wrong".

Trump WANTED this to happen.

And he and his minions are refusing subpoenas. But hey, you don't give a fuck that they are stonewalling, do you, since you say they're all innocent anyway.

[Glennfs]

They wanted to overthrow the government. They tried to force Pence to refuse to open the votes and send the election to the Congress, where there is one vote per state, and the GOP has control of more states.

And you're fine with that.

If they had kidnapped and hung Pelosi, McConnell and Pence you would still be saying it was just a "protest gone wrong".

Trump WANTED this to happen.

And he and his minions are refusing subpoenas. But hey, you don't give a fuck that they are stonewalling, do you, since you say they're all innocent anyway.

So give me the list of those charged with crimes related to insurrection or sedition.
There aren't any because it was a riot

[gounion]

So give me the list of those charged with crimes related to insurrection or sedition.
There aren't any because it was a riot

If all these Trump folks are innocent, why are they pleading the fifth and/or refusing subpoenas?

Go ahead, it's hilarious how you say you don't support Trump.

[marindem01]

They wanted to overthrow the government. They tried to force Pence to refuse to open the votes and send the election to the Congress, where there is one vote per state, and the GOP has control of more states.

And you're fine with that.

If they had kidnapped and hung Pelosi, McConnell and Pence you would still be saying it was just a "protest gone wrong".

Trump WANTED this to happen.

And he and his minions are refusing subpoenas. But hey, you don't give a fuck that they are stonewalling, do you, since you say they're all innocent anyway.

Glenn will do what Glenn always does. Defend the Traitor and the supporters of the Traitor.

[Glennfs]

Glenn will do what Glenn always does. Defend the Traitor and the supporters of the Traitor.

So show me where anyone had been charged with a crime related to sedition or insurrection.

[Glennfs]

If all these Trump folks are innocent, why are they pleading the fifth and/or refusing subpoenas?

Go ahead, it's hilarious how you say you don't support Trump.

Because it is their constitutional right to do so. You are the guy who is always saying people pulled over should tell the cop to fuck off

[gounion]

Because it is their constitutional right to do so.

Trump always said the only reason someone takes the fifth is if they’re guilty of something.

You don’t think Trump is guilty of anything?

[Glennfs]

Trump always said the only reason someone takes the fifth is if they’re guilty of something.

You don’t think Trump is guilty of anything?

I think trump is guilty of quite a lot.

[gounion]

I think trump is guilty of quite a lot.

But innocent of leading an attempt to overthrow the government. Right?

[Glennfs]

But innocent of leading an attempt to overthrow the government. Right?

Inciting a riot probably. If the memo about how it was done in the 1870s is illegal then yes.
But planning a violent overthrow of the government nope

[Drak]

Innocent people don't ignore subpeonas, plead the 5th, refuse to hand over documents, sue to keep requested documents a secret, or circulate coup memos.

[gounion]

Inciting a riot probably. If the memo about how it was done in the 1870s is illegal then yes.
But planning a violent overthrow of the government nope

I quote: “If you don’t take the government back, you won’t have a country anymore”.

[Drak]

Glenn is repeating Trump's talking points that he didnt attempt a coup.

[Glennfs]

Glenn is repeating Trump's talking points that he didnt attempt a coup.

That is tantamount to saying you are repeating Hartmann's and others talking points.
Again if the memo about the 1870 election was illegal then yes he is guilty.
But as of now not one person has been charged. We have a democratic party WH,House,Senate and Justice Department.
You would think by now at least one person would have been charged

[Libertas]

Glenn is repeating Trump's talking points that he didnt attempt a coup.

Board cons will say nothing when your family is put in jail for voting for a Democrat, or shot, or deported, etc.


ON good news, CA reimposes state wide indoor mask mandate...now watch red states pass a law that says you cant make anyone wear a mask.

[gounion]

That is tantamount to saying you are repeating Hartmann's and others talking points.
Again if the memo about the 1870 election was illegal then yes he is guilty.
But as of now not one person has been charged. We have a democratic party WH,House,Senate and Justice Department.
You would think by now at least one person would have been charged

Well, yeah, we know Republicans like to convict and sentence without, you know, an investigation.

[Drak]

That is tantamount to saying you are repeating Hartmann's and others talking points.
Again if the memo about the 1870 election was illegal then yes he is guilty.
But as of now not one person has been charged. We have a democratic party WH,House,Senate and Justice Department.
You would think by now at least one person would have been charged

You constantly repeat the latest right wing talking points. That's a fact.

You should follow some of the legal accounts who know what's going on instead of listening to Fox News and right wing radio. This isn't an episode of Mattlock or CSI.

[Drak]

Notice how Glenn totally ignored what this thread is about?

[Drak]

They wanted to overthrow the government. They tried to force Pence to refuse to open the votes and send the election to the Congress, where there is one vote per state, and the GOP has control of more states.

And you're fine with that.

If they had kidnapped and hung Pelosi, McConnell and Pence you would still be saying it was just a "protest gone wrong".

Trump WANTED this to happen.

And he and his minions are refusing subpoenas. But hey, you don't give a fuck that they are stonewalling, do you, since you say they're all innocent anyway.

Refusing subpoenas, pleading the 5th, refusing to turn over documents and filing lawsuits (all things innocent people do...), circulating coup memos and coup power point presentations, organizing an event called stop the steal, Trump full out admitting on video that Pence didn't do as he was told and overturn a free and fair election (which is admitting a coup) and Glenn argues none of this happened.

[carmenjonze]

Notice how Glenn totally ignored what this thread is about?

Dupes like Glennfs are how Nazis, Soviets, and tin pot dictators remain in power, and why segregation lasted so long here.

#authoritarianism

[Libertas]

Refusing subpoenas, pleading the 5th, refusing to turn over documents and filing lawsuits (all things innocent people do...), circulating coup memos and coup power point presentations, organizing an event called stop the steal, Trump full out admitting on video that Pence didn't do as he was told and overturn a free and fair election (which is admitting a coup) and Glenn argues none of this happened.

The more the GOP supports fascism and our ultimate deaths, the more cons here on this board will support it.

[carmenjonze]

The more the GOP supports fascism and our ultimate deaths, the more cons here on this board will support it.

It really is fascism-creep. It's not the first time it's happened in this country's history, either.

In the current era it started 50 years ago with the Southern Strategy, which is still very much in play, right this minute.

We could see it at work in the Reagan era with the Reagan Democrats. We could observe it in the more recent Obama Republicans. The latest iteration are those grifters, manchinandsinema.

You can see it at work in Glennfs, greengrass, bradman, and Sam Lefthand's posts. One can observe MLK's own observation of so-called moderates and how they serve to court-jester in the worst of the US authoritarian right.