Elon Musk takes his ball and goes home

[ZoWie]

BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1vd097z7rvo

Billionaire Elon Musk has said he will move the headquarters of two of his most high-profile companies, rocket firm SpaceX and social media platform X, from California to Texas.

He said the move was due to recent laws passed by the state - in particular a new law which prevents schools from making rules requiring staff tell anyone, including parents, information about a child's gender identity.

[Toonces]

He does know he can just buy a drama queen trophy, right?

[rainwater]

hes using that as excuse to screw the CA towns he leaves behind.
he prefers rw texass.
gosh we all hope he fences it in.

[Glennfs]

It makes no sense I mean with California high taxes and excessive regulations I am surprised that every business isn't wanting to move there.

[gounion]

It makes no sense I mean with California high taxes and excessive regulations I am surprised that every business isn't wanting to move there.

California is and has been the center of technological and entertaining innovation for decades, and it still is.

Musk seem set on destroying his companies. He’s not an innovator; he hired those, and now he’s running them off.

[Glennfs]

California is and has been the center of technological and entertaining innovation for decades, and it still is.

Musk seem set on destroying his companies. He’s not an innovator; he hired those, and now he’s running them off.

I guess all those productions which are produced outside of California are done so for artistic integrity.

The high cost of labor and regulations has nothing to do with it.

[Toonces]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/13/10-stat ... erica.html

Worst State For Quality Of Life: Texas

Yes, we know. People are moving to the Lone Star State in droves. Some 220,000 educated workers moved there in 2022 alone, according to the Census Bureau. So how could we possibly score Texas at the bottom for Quality of Life? The fact is that people move to a state for any number of reasons. The ones arriving in Texas are encountering some serious livability issues, based on the data.

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2024 Quality of Life Score: 75 out of 325 points (Top States Grade: F)

Strength: Air Quality

Weaknesses: Reproductive Rights, Health Care, Voting Rights, Inclusiveness, Worker Protections

So a good choice for businesses, and a bad choice for workers.

I guess it all depends on whose side you're on. And no real surprise of which sides are being taken here.

I don't know the station in life that everyone here is at, but unless someone is a billionaire, you're all on the same side and you will not be invited. The billionaires and those in power, often the same, are doing things that will not benefit you. The further along capitalism gets, the bigger this divide. Regulations can slow that progression. Aside from impacting financial differences, regulations also protect your health, well-being, and a multitude of other things. The wealthy don't like them because it prevents them from having even more money, generally at the expense of those who are not part of their club (eg; the rest of us). The easing of regulations will not benefit anyone here, not to any substantive degree.

You think "fewer regulations are good for business", and they are, but there are winners and losers, and no one here is going to be a winner. Still, that American dream was a really nice sales pitch, wasn't it?

And through it all, I've never fully understood why some root against their friends, neighbors, other people just trying to get by. I don't think I ever will. And, strangely, I am very much not a people person nor am I a big fan of humans as a collective. We're a horrible species.

Fortunately, for our anti-regulation fans, SCOTUS has given you a gift. With a gaggle of anti-regulation justices, we will now get to see the lack of enforced regulations in action. (hint: You're not going to like it).

[Glennfs]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/13/10-stat ... erica.html

Worst State For Quality Of Life: Texas




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So a good choice for businesses, and a bad choice for workers.

I guess it all depends on whose side you're on. And no real surprise of which sides are being taken here.

I don't know the station in life that everyone here is at, but unless someone is a billionaire, you're all on the same side and you will not be invited. The billionaires and those in power, often the same, are doing things that will not benefit you. The further along capitalism gets, the bigger this divide. Regulations can slow that progression. Aside from impacting financial differences, regulations also protect your health, well-being, and a multitude of other things. The wealthy don't like them because it prevents them from having even more money, generally at the expense of those who are not part of their club (eg; the rest of us). The easing of regulations will not benefit anyone here, not to any substantive degree.

You think "fewer regulations are good for business", and they are, but there are winners and losers, and no one here is going to be a winner. Still, that American dream was a really nice sales pitch, wasn't it?

And through it all, I've never fully understood why some root against their friends, neighbors, other people just trying to get by. I don't think I ever will. And, strangely, I am very much not a people person nor am I a big fan of humans as a collective. We're a horrible species.

Fortunately, for our anti-regulation fans, SCOTUS has given you a gift. With a gaggle of anti-regulation justices, we will now get to see the lack of enforced regulations in action. (hint: You're not going to like it).

Their criteria is heavily influenced by the ability to get an abortion.

[ZoWie]

Abortion is basically a buzz word.

Nothing has changed in my lifetime. Abortion laws come and go. People who want them get them regardless. Mostly, it only changes how safe they are.

[Glennfs]

Abortion is basically a buzz word.

Nothing has changed in my lifetime. Abortion laws come and go. People who want them get them regardless. Mostly, it only changes how safe they are.

imo Abortion should have no restrictions during the first trimester.
After that there needs to regulations. The further out the tougher the regulations.

[ZoWie]

Sounds about like what we had until the latest court changed it. Safe, legal, and rare. Choose life. Etc.

It was a good compromise, right to choose and all that, then the people that run things wanted the old mess back, and they got it. Some guy on SCOTUS said Roe was settled law, then they changed it anyway. Not how you run a country.

[ap215]

Republicans & their billionaires friends running any kind of business are total failures including tech.

[gounion]

I guess all those productions which are produced outside of California are done so for artistic integrity.

The high cost of labor and regulations has nothing to do with it.

More productions still happen in California. Plus the studios are still HQ’d there. The best people in the industry are still in California.

[Glennfs]

More productions still happen in California. Plus the studios are still HQ’d there. The best people in the industry are still in California.

You would be surprised at how many production companies are located in Atlanta, especially cable networks.

[gounion]

You would be surprised at how many production companies are located in Atlanta, especially cable networks.

No, I wouldn’t. CNN led the way there. But still the vast majority are in California. I know that a lot of super-cheap simple animation companies are in Georgia, but Pixar? Disney? Dreamworks? Illumination? All in California. All the top talent is there. Everyone else WANTS to be there.

[ZoWie]

Animation is fleeing offshore. The storyboard goes to India via Internet, and the finished sequence comes back the same way.

The VFX editor that I know is trying to get a new gig as a picture editor.

[gounion]

Animation is fleeing offshore. The storyboard goes to India via Internet, and the finished sequence comes back the same way.

The VFX editor that I know is trying to get a new gig as a picture editor.

Agreed. if they want it cheap, they ain’t going to Atlanta. They’re going to India and such.

[ZoWie]

Atlanta became a production center due to the Ted Turner cable (remember cable?) empire being based there. IIRC, he was the last liberal or even centrist media billionaire. CNN has of course been bought out by whatever they're calling the Warner conglomerate this year, and moved to HQ in NYC.

In general, the entities currently giving "Hollywood" real competition in media production tend to be based in Manhattan, and you would be amazed by the number of studios and rental facilities popping up in places like Brooklyn.

[gounion]

Yeah, New York has always been the other headquarters of the entertainment industry, because of what it is, and because of Broadway.

Atlanta isn’t much.

[ZoWie]

The movie industry actually started in New York. Macy's has a plaque declaring that the building it currently occupies on Herald Square was the site of the world's first movie screening. Most production at that time was in New Jersey, where Edison had his headquarters. Production gradually moved to the LA area due to better weather, since most footage was still illuminated by the sun, and to escape Edison's Motion Picture Patents Company, which sent out goons to shut down productions that hadn't paid the license fee for the cameras.

[gounion]

The movie industry actually started in New York. Macy's has a plaque declaring that the building it currently occupies on Herald Square was the site of the world's first movie screening. Most production at that time was in New Jersey, where Edison had his headquarters. Production gradually moved to the LA area due to better weather, since most footage was still illuminated by the sun, and to escape Edison's Motion Picture Patents Company, which sent out goons to shut down productions that hadn't paid the license fee for the cameras.

Yeah, I’ve read several books over the years about birth and history of the industry. It’s always fascinated me. The history of SAG and AFTRA are also fascinating. The entertainment industry REQUIRES unions to be healthy.

[ZoWie]

Yes, you could also write a book about the production unions in LA. It's quite the story. In the case of the IA, the Mob gets involved too. Variety finally moved out of its old building, essentially a bomb shelter, that was deliberately sited directly across from the old Hollywood fire station (now an FD museum). They had been attacked by the mobsters once too often, so they built a bunker by a firehouse.

[Toonces]

A lot of TV production takes place in Vancouver, and it's most certainly not a cheap place to work and live.

Generally speaking, places to live are most expensive when you have more people wanting to live there, be it for work, what the place offers, etc.

Some people do choose to live in a place because it's cheap, others have different priorities.

[Glennfs]

A lot of TV production takes place in Vancouver, and it's most certainly not a cheap place to work and live.

Generally speaking, places to live are most expensive when you have more people wanting to live there, be it for work, what the place offers, etc.

Some people do choose to live in a place because it's cheap, others have different priorities.

They might offer incentives. New Orleans used to the tax breaks dropped and the liberals moved production.

Odd how that works

[gounion]

They might offer incentives. New Orleans used to the tax breaks dropped and the liberals moved production.

Odd how that works

Most states offer incentives. Many will basically pay all costs for a production. Why pay for it yourself when the taxpayer will pick up the tab?