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Here, the leader of the Republican Party continues to whine and cry, while idolizing Al Capone.

Wonder what Trump’s mob name is. Must be Baby Fingers.


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Trump really does use the language of gangsters.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:55 am Trump really does use the language of gangsters.
Roy Cohn taught him well.
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The leader of the Republican Party just re “truthed” this over his social media platform. Directly calling for violence.

And Lindsey Graham wants him back in the WH.


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so....who's going to tell QAnon Betty she's not attractive enough to be Velveeta Voldemort's running mate??
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Stop drawing equivalence between racial identity and a job

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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:55 am Trump really does use the language of gangsters.
I think the reason for that is Trump doesn't seem to have a personality of hus own.

He is like a guy from New York who moves to Alabama and immediately gets a southern drawl.

In just about every aspect of his life he has glommed on to personality aspects of others.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:09 pm I think the reason for that is Trump doesn't seem to have a personality of hus own.

He is like a guy from New York who moves to Alabama and immediately gets a southern drawl.

In just about every aspect of his life he has glommed on to personality aspects of others.
OOOOORRRRR... It's because he runs his businesses like the mob does.

Which is what you'll never admit. You think he's a GREAT businessman.
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gounion wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:21 am OOOOORRRRR... It's because he runs his businesses like the mob does.

Which is what you'll never admit. You think he's a GREAT businessman.
Successful is the correct term
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:19 am Successful is the correct term
No, corrupt is the correct term. He’s a con man. He’s “successful” the same way a drug lord is “successful”

But you always defend him.
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Successful is not inheriting a small fortune from your Daddy and managing to run it into a only slightly larger fortune by hiring gangsters and scalawags. That's called white collar crime. You don't hear about it because they don't beat you to death for doing it the way they do when Blacks are caught making illegal lane changes. They give you a black-tie dinner and a key to the city.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:19 am Successful is the correct term
Phony university, phony charity, etc... Yeah, that's the success you admire.
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Successful con man. Righties are such easy prey.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:19 am Successful is the correct term
Then he isn’t. Warren Buffett is far more successful. Trump businesses have had multiple bankruptcies, been implicated and convicted of fraud, been linked to organized crime and so on.

No, he is not a successful businessman.

So, either your definition is inaccurate or your moral compass is, shall we say, lacking.
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The truth is, the ONLY business venture Donald Trump has ever had that could be legitimately considered "successful" was his stint as a TV reality show star on The Apprentice. Everything else he's done has been failures and he had numerous bankruptcies.
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gounion wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:57 pm The truth is, the ONLY business venture Donald Trump has ever had that could be legitimately considered "successful" was his stint as a TV reality show star on The Apprentice. Everything else he's done has been failures and he had numerous bankruptcies.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwa ... orbes-400/

If a person ends up with more than they started with by definition they have been successful.
Now if you to say Trump is unethical on that we agree
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:52 am https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwa ... orbes-400/

If a person ends up with more than they started with by definition they have been successful.
Now if you to say Trump is unethical on that we agree
Wow, another link you didn't read. Let's be clear: The truth is, Trump has probably lost more money than anyone else in US history. Via the New Yorker, a link you SHOULD read, but don't have the attention span. Disprove this, or drop your lie that Trump is a successful businessman:
Last October, the New York Times published a monumental exposé of how Donald Trump and other members of the Trump family engaged in sham financial schemes during the nineteen-nineties, including what the newspaper described as “instances of outright fraud,” to avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the real-estate fortune that Fred Trump passed on to his children. Last month, the three reporters who wrote the story—David Barstow, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner—were awarded the Pulitzer Prize in explanatory reporting.

On Tuesday evening, the Times dropped another story that delved into the President’s financial past. Written by Buettner and Craig, and based upon “printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service transcripts” that the reporters obtained, the story further undermined the assiduously promoted fiction that Trump, before he became a reality-television star and entered politics, was a highly successful self-made businessman. He was anything but.

Between 1985 and 1994, the Times story says, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.”

In case you didn’t take all that in, here is a quick recap: when Trump was portraying himself as a newly minted billionaire and financial genius, his core businesses were losing money hand over fist. Assuming the Times reporters’ analysis of the I.R.S. data on high earners is accurate—and there is no apparent reason to doubt it—he was the biggest loser in the country for two years in a row.

Of course, anybody who has followed Trump’s career already knew that much of what he said was erroneous and deceptive. He financed the parts of his business portfolio that he didn’t inherit from Fred by taking on huge loans. During the recession of the early nineteen-nineties, four of his highly indebted businesses declared bankruptcy—three casinos in Atlantic City and the Plaza Hotel on Fifth Avenue. Other Trump businesses only survived because they were sold or his lenders decided they were worth more as going concerns and allowed him to write down some of his debts.

The Times reporters and other journalists have already covered some of this troubled history. In September, 2016, the Times received a copy of part of Trump’s 1995 tax return, which showed that he declared a massive tax loss, of nine hundred and sixteen million dollars. Under tax laws, business owners are allowed to carry losses into subsequent years and offset them against income. Trump’s loss was so huge in 1995, the Times noted, that it “could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years.” In response to that Times scoop, Trump’s campaign released a statement that didn’t challenge the nine-hundred-and-sixteen-million-dollar loss but claimed that he “has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in property taxes, sales and excise taxes, real estate taxes, city taxes, state taxes, employee taxes and federal taxes.”

By lumping all the different taxes together, this statement seemed to concede that Trump’s federal-tax payments after 1995 weren’t very large. The latest Times report confirms that Trump didn’t pay much tax in the decade before 1995, either. To wit: “Over all, Mr. Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years.” (The story also notes, “It is not known whether the I.R.S. later required changes after audits.”)

This revelation confirms another thing that many Trump skeptics have long suspected. The financial problems his businesses faced predated the bust of the early nineteen-nineties. “The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses—largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings,” the Times reported. “They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.” In 1987, Trump published a ghostwritten book—“Trump: The Art of the Deal”—that became a best-seller and cemented his status as a celebrity. By the time the book came out, the story notes, Trump “was already in deep financial distress, losing tens of millions of dollars on troubled business deals.”

In response to inquiries from the Times, Charles Harder, a lawyer for Trump, claimed that the tax information the newspaper obtained was “demonstrably false” but didn’t cite any specific errors. Harder also described I.R.S. transcripts, which are official records of full tax returns, as “notoriously inaccurate.” The Times story quoted a former director of research at the I.R.S., who disputed this characterization and said that the agency’s own auditors often referred to tax transcripts as handy summaries of full tax returns.

If the entries in Trump’s actual tax returns really differed materially from the figures in the I.R.S. transcripts that the Times cited, Harder and Trump could have resolved the matter by showing the newspaper copies of the original documents. But they didn’t do that, of course. Meanwhile, Trump and his Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin, who oversees the I.R.S., are busy fighting congressional requests for the President’s more recent tax records, and the matter seems to be headed for the courts. It’s too early to say how that dispute will ultimately be resolved, but an amicable settlement seems highly unlikely.

Even now, there are a lot of Americans who believe that the President is a savvy and successful businessman who knows what he is doing. The actual record, which, thanks to the Times, we now know a good deal more about, suggests the exact opposite. It reveals Trump to be a reckless conman who burned money and relied on his father, even as he was fashioning a myth that eventually took him all the way to the White House. No wonder he is so averse to allowing the American public to see any more accurate information about his financial history.
You say he's successful. He supposedly starts out with 200 million. Well, in 1995, he declared losses of 916 million. Wow, that's a success.

Again, the truth is, if he hadn't gotten the TV job, he wouldn't own the golf courses, he wouldn't own Mar-a-lago. He'd have lost it all. I'll accept that he was a successful reality TV star. But was always a scam artist and a crook.
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“ He’s nowhere near as rich as he boasts, nor as poor as his critics claim. Donald Trump’s real net worth? $3.2 billion, according to our most recent tally, conducted in September 2022. Below, Forbes offers an asset-by-asset breakdown of the former president’s fortune.”

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Bullshit. Trump has always lied about his wealth. If Trump has any claim to big money at this point it’s from nefarious gains. Like Jared’s 2 billion payout from SA. He’s also constantly grifting off his base.
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So this is how The GOP honors Black History Month huh.

Republicans Push To Rename Part Of John Lewis Way In Nashville To 'Honor' Trump

A Republican-backed bill seeks to rename part of a Tennessee street dedicated to Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), the late civil rights leader, in order to “honor” former President Donald Trump.

The bill, sponsored by Tennessee state Rep. Paul Sherrell (R) and state Sen. Frank Niceley (R), would rename a portion of Nashville’s Fifth Avenue that had been named after Lewis. The section is between James Robertson Parkway and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard.

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Bludogdem wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:49 am “ He’s nowhere near as rich as he boasts, nor as poor as his critics claim. Donald Trump’s real net worth? $3.2 billion, according to our most recent tally, conducted in September 2022. Below, Forbes offers an asset-by-asset breakdown of the former president’s fortune.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... 7e66b54813
The real only reason he has anything is The Apprentice. Everything else he's ever done has been a disaster. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ice-empire
When Donald Trump signed a deal to star in The Apprentice in 2004, the New York Times’ latest bombshell report on his tax returns shows, he was among the worst businessmen in the United States.

Tax documents obtained by the paper show how Trump squandered a $413m inheritance in a series of losing plays in real estate and casinos. On his tax return in 2004, he declared $89.9m in net losses from core businesses the previous year.

The story of how The Apprentice made Trump a household name, burnishing his personal myth as a successful businessman and ultimately paving his way to the White House, is well documented. But on Tuesday, the Times exposed just how false that myth was, and how far into the red Trump had sunk when he was approached by Mark Burnett, a British-born reality TV producer known for the genre’s first mega-hit, Survivor.

The New York Times report also exploded the image of Trump as a businessman with a reality TV career on the side. Taken together, the documents “demonstrate that he was far more successful playing a business mogul than being one in real life”, the Times said.

As the first presidential debate approached, a White House spokesperson did not dispute any specific facts in the report but dismissed it as “fake news” and “yet another politically motivated hit piece full of inaccurate smears”.

Trump’s tax documents reveal that he netted $427m in earnings, endorsements and licensing from 14 seasons of The Apprentice, a sum which worked to cover the losses of the real estate and hospitality concerns that made up his business “empire”.

On TV, Trump played a billionaire who judged young entrepreneurs hoping to make the big time, testily firing them one by one. Without the role, his earnings would have been basically flat from 2000 to 2018, his tax documents show – potentially leaving him unable to service debts incurred from his disastrous casino projects.

Now, as Trump nears the end of his first term as president, facing a long-shot re-election bid, even the Apprentice money appears to be gone, sunk in a series of golf resorts which appear once again to have delivered him to the brink of financial disaster.
Let's be clear: His earnings were FLAT from 2000-2018 except for his money around The Apprentice.

I'll admit his entertainment career was a success. Except for that, he's a total failure.
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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:50 am Wow, another link you didn't read. Let's be clear: The truth is, Trump has probably lost more money than anyone else in US history. Via the New Yorker, a link you SHOULD read, but don't have the attention span. Disprove this, or drop your lie that Trump is a successful businessman:



You say he's successful. He supposedly starts out with 200 million. Well, in 1995, he declared losses of 916 million. Wow, that's a success.

Again, the truth is, if he hadn't gotten the TV job, he wouldn't own the golf courses, he wouldn't own Mar-a-lago. He'd have lost it all. I'll accept that he was a successful reality TV star. But was always a scam artist and a crook.
Starts out with 200million now 3.4 billion that is successful by any measure.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:16 pm Starts out with 200million now 3.4 billion that is successful by any measure.
He’s lost more than that. He didn’t make a dime for two decades except for his TV gig.

His businesses have all been disasters.
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bird wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:54 pm Then he isn’t. Warren Buffett is far more successful. Trump businesses have had multiple bankruptcies, been implicated and convicted of fraud, been linked to organized crime and so on.

No, he is not a successful businessman.

So, either your definition is inaccurate or your moral compass is, shall we say, lacking.
Just because someone has made a lot of money doesn't mean they're a "success." What's more important is how they made their money. Drug lord Pablo Escobar made billions of dollars after starting life with very little. So, using your standard of what "success" is you'd be admiring Escobar because he is in your eyes a "success."

TFG has lied in his financial dealings, run a phony charity, a phony university, ripped off contractors who built his properties and you admire him for doing to become a "success." That tells us more about you than it does anything else.
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gounion wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:39 pm He’s lost more than that. He didn’t make a dime for two decades except for his TV gig.

His businesses have all been disasters.
You actually think he actually lost money for 20 years?

You don’t go from $200 million to $3.24 billion loosing money for 20 years.

You’re not much on logic are you.?
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:31 am You actually think he actually lost money for 20 years?

You don’t go from $200 million to $3.24 billion loosing money for 20 years.

You’re not much on logic are you.?
That’s what the returns say.

And except for being a TV reality star, everything else Trump has ever done has been a failure.

Your hero worship clouds any judgement you ever had.
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