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You know this sick shit he's parroting directly from Trump, well Donald Trump is an actual criminal and an adjudicated rapist. It's always projection.
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:42 pm You want the government in charge of women's bodies.

NOT ONE STATE HAS VOTED TO BAN ABORTION. Every state that got a vote, voted it down.
It’s a state issue. Not federal. I voted to amend Ohio’s constitution to recognize the right. If you want a federal right you need an amendment.

It’s that simple
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Greengrass wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:48 pm It’s a state issue. Not federal. I voted to amend Ohio’s constitution to recognize the right. If you want a federal right you need an amendment.
No, it's a human rights issue. The government shouldn't tell women what to do with their bodies. Period. They shouldn't be forcing women's deaths.

And I believe it's a constitutional right, and most people agree with me, not you. Idiot.
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:50 pm No, it's a human rights issue. The government shouldn't tell women what to do with their bodies. Period. They shouldn't be forcing women's deaths.

And I believe it's a constitutional right, and most people agree with me, not you. Idiot.

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Glennfs wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:51 pmMore anger
More bullshit. You're the one that accused me of "being friendless".

You can dish it out but you can't take it.
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:58 pm More bullshit. You're the one that accused me of "being friendless".

You can dish it out but you can't take it.
And that is what has caused your endless temper tantrum
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:50 pm No, it's a human rights issue. The government shouldn't tell women what to do with their bodies. Period. They shouldn't be forcing women's deaths.

And I believe it's a constitutional right, and most people agree with me, not you. Idiot.
Some people agree with you. Definitely not most.

If you want it to be a constitutional right there needs to be an amendment.
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Yah sorry but Roe was constitutional and the law of the land for decades. The problem is extremist bribe takers have been stacked to the SC who decided to make up their own rules.
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Greengrass wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:59 pm Some people agree with you. Definitely not most.

If you want it to be a constitutional right there needs to be an amendment.
Most people agree with me.

Especially in the states that have banned abortion.

Pew Research Center: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... oe-v-wade/
A majority of Americans disapprove of the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark ruling overturning the Roe v. Wade decision, which had guaranteed a constitutional right to an abortion for nearly 50 years. Public support for legal abortion remains largely unchanged since before the decision, with 62% saying it should be legal in all or most cases.

Nearly six-in-ten adults (57%) disapprove of the court’s sweeping decision, including 43% who strongly disapprove. About four-in-ten (41%) approve of the court’s decision (25% strongly approve).
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:04 pm Most people agree with me.

Especially in the states that have banned abortion.

Pew Research Center: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... oe-v-wade/
It’s a state issue. I agree, as I voted, that there should be a limited right. But that right must be either defined by the state. In order for it to be a federal right gonna need an amendment.
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Greengrass wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:07 pm It’s a state issue. I agree, as I voted, that there should be a limited right. But that right must be either defined by the state. In or for it to be a federal right gonna need an amendment.
You lied - you said most people didn't agree with me. But keep dancing.

You don't mind the dead women at all.
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Greengrass wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:48 pm It’s a state issue. Not federal.
That's YOUR opinion, and most people don't agree with you.

It's the old "state's rights" argument - just like they used for Jim Crow to keep blacks from having rights. You recycle this to take women's rights away.

I'm of the view that the Constitution should be the one giving us human rights, that are inalienable. The right of a woman to make a decision for her own body should be inalienable.

I realize that YOU think the government should be in charge of her body, not her.

But then, you support the right of states to criminalize abortion and surveillance of women in a post-Dobbs world. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the- ... bbs-world/
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:24 pm That's YOUR opinion, and most people don't agree with you.

It's the old "state's rights" argument - just like they used for Jim Crow to keep blacks from having rights. You recycle this to take women's rights away.

I'm of the view that the Constitution should be the one giving us human rights, that are inalienable. The right of a woman to make a decision for her own body should be inalienable.

I realize that YOU think the government should be in charge of her body, not her.

But then, you support the right of states to criminalize abortion and surveillance of women in a post-Dobbs world. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the- ... bbs-world/
“ We end this opinion where we began. Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”

My opinion and the Supreme Court’s.

I realize that the constitution needs to be properly followed and when necessary amended.
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:24 pm That's YOUR opinion, and most people don't agree with you.



I'm of the view that the Constitution should be the one giving us human rights, that are inalienable. The right of a woman to make a decision for her own body should be inalienable.

That’s why we have an amendment process.
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Greengrass wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:22 pm That’s why we have an amendment process.
You know the chances of ANY amendment being passed is non-existent, so this is all muddying the waters.

You've lied all along "Oh, most people don't agree with you". Proved that wrong!

You're all for taking women's rights away, in the old racist "state's rights" arguments.

You must be proud. Wonder if Humphrey would be proud of you too?
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:34 pm You know the chances of ANY amendment being passed is non-existent, so this is all muddying the waters.

You've lied all along "Oh, most people don't agree with you". Proved that wrong!

You're all for taking women's rights away, in the old racist "state's rights" arguments.

You must be proud. Wonder if Humphrey would be proud of you too?
I voted for the Ohio amendment.
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:34 pm You know the chances of ANY amendment being passed is non-existent, so this is all muddying the waters.

You've lied all along "Oh, most people don't agree with you". Proved that wrong!

You're all for taking women's rights away, in the old racist "state's rights" arguments.

You must be proud. Wonder if Humphrey would be proud of you too?
It’s far more complicated and nuanced than people agreeing with you.


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Greengrass wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:48 pm It’s far more complicated and nuanced than people agreeing with you.


https://news.gallup.com/poll/506759/bro ... dobbs.aspx
No, it's that people DO agree. We should have kept Roe.

But you don't mind that women die, do you?

I believe a woman should make her own decision.

I don't give a fuck what you say you voted for - you're for the women dying in states that won't let women make their own fucking decisions.
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gounion wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:54 pm No, it's that people DO agree. We should have kept Roe.

But you don't mind that women die, do you?

I believe a woman should make her own decision.

I don't give a fuck what you say you voted for - you're for the women dying in states that won't let women make their own fucking decisions.

Just like you don't mind it when illegal aliens commit crimes especially rape and murder.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:24 pm Just like you don't mind it when illegal aliens commit crimes especially rape and murder.
I guess you think it’s okay when it’s US citizens that commit crimes especially rape and murder, which they do at a larger rate than immigrants.

The is the same argument the right has used against blacks for decades.
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gounion wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:25 pm I guess you think it’s okay when it’s US citizens that commit crimes especially rape and murder, which they do at a larger rate than immigrants.

The is the same argument the right has used against blacks for decades.
I knew you would defend the crimes. So you are OK with it as long as the rate is less than people born here.

Got it

My point was no you aren't OK with it anymore than people are OK with the deaths you mentioned.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:39 pm I knew you would defend the crimes. So you are OK with it as long as the rate is less than people born here.

Got it

My point was no you aren't OK with it anymore than people are OK with the deaths you mentioned.
You guys on the right keep saying the same racist shit - just about different people of color.

I’m concerned about all crimes and deaths. You just want to use them to target people of color.

And crime is down nationwide.
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gounion wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:47 pm You guys on the right keep saying the same racist shit - just about different people of color.

I’m concerned about all crimes and deaths. You just want to use them to target people of color.

And crime is down nationwide.

When in doubt cry racism at least you didn't scream Trump this time
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:50 pm When in doubt cry racism at least you didn't scream Trump this time
You're the one making the racist arguments.

I'm just pointing it out.

And you don't like getting called out about it.

Again, this is the very same argument used against blacks for decades. "They're all murderous animals!"
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:24 pm Just like you don't mind it when illegal aliens commit crimes especially rape and murder.
This is straight of Trump’s fascist, racist mouth. Trump, the leader of the Republican Party who is an actual rapist and a convicted felon.
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