2024 General Elections Thread

[Greengrass]

You have a comprehension problem.

Simple solution is for you to prove it.

[gounion]

Simple solution is for you to prove it.

No I proved your Nazi bullshit, and you still deny it using “comprehension” - when Brad called bullshit on you.

You are like Trump - you will never admit being wrong, even when confronted with the truth.

[ap215]

US raises alarm over Georgia’s elections

The U.S. and European allies are raising alarm over Georgia’s elections, where the Russian-friendly ruling party Georgian Dream (GD) claimed victory over opposition parties that have refused to recognize the results, accused the Kremlin of meddling and called for mass protests.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, joined by some of his counterparts, has held back on recognizing GD’s victory and called for investigations into the elections.

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... ope-alarm/

[ap215]

Ohio Supreme Court rules Atty. Gen. Dave Yost erred in rejecting voter rights petition

The Ohio Supreme Court has ruled that Attorney General Dave Yost did not have the authority to reject an effort to place a voting rights amendment on the ballot because of its title.

The court, in a unanimous decision issued Wednesday, found that the attorney general can only review the summary of the petition, but not the title.

https://www.wvxu.org/2024-10-30/ohio-su ... s-petition

[ap215]

Supreme Court allows Virginia to remove suspected non-citizens from voter rolls

The Supreme Court on Wednesday temporarily blocked an order by a federal judge that would have required Virginia to return more than 1,600 people to the voter rolls. U.S. District Judge Patricia Tolliver Giles found that since early August the state had canceled the registration of more than 1,600 voters – at least some of whom were U.S. citizens eligible to vote – under a program intended to remove suspected noncitizens from the voting rolls.

In a brief unsigned order on Wednesday morning, the justices granted Virginia’s request to put Giles’ order on hold while a challenge to it continues. Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and Ketanji Brown Jackson indicated that they would have denied the state’s request.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/10/supr ... ter-rolls/

[Greengrass]

Supreme Court allows Virginia to remove suspected non-citizens from voter rolls

The Supreme Court on Wednesday temporarily blocked an order by a federal judge that would have required Virginia to return more than 1,600 people to the voter rolls. U.S. District Judge Patricia Tolliver Giles found that since early August the state had canceled the registration of more than 1,600 voters – at least some of whom were U.S. citizens eligible to vote – under a program intended to remove suspected noncitizens from the voting rolls.

In a brief unsigned order on Wednesday morning, the justices granted Virginia’s request to put Giles’ order on hold while a challenge to it continues. Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and Ketanji Brown Jackson indicated that they would have denied the state’s request.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/10/supr ... ter-rolls/

So, it’s a hold.

“But in a one-paragraph order on Wednesday morning, the court granted the state’s request to put Giles’ order on hold while the challenge to the voter-purge program continues in the lower court.”

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/10/supr ... ter-rolls/

Additional note.

“ Virginia has same-day voter registration meaning that any eligible voter who was removed from the rolls should still be able to vote on Election Day or during the early voting period that ends on Nov. 2.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... rcna177673

[gounion]

So, it’s a hold.

“But in a one-paragraph order on Wednesday morning, the court granted the state’s request to put Giles’ order on hold while the challenge to the voter-purge program continues in the lower court.”

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/10/supr ... ter-rolls/

Additional note.

“ Virginia has same-day voter registration meaning that any eligible voter who was removed from the rolls should still be able to vote on Election Day or during the early voting period that ends on Nov. 2.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... rcna177673

in this case “hold” means they an continue no matter what federal law says. Isn’t that great?

So much for rule of law.

[Greengrass]

in this case “hold” means they an continue no matter what federal law says. Isn’t that great?

So much for rule of law.

Citizens can still vote.

[gounion]

Citizens can still vote.

Who cares about the rule of law?

[Greengrass]

Who cares about the rule of law?

What about the law non citizens can’t legally register to vote. Bit of a conflict.

All citizens still vote.

[Greengrass]

in this case “hold” means they an continue no matter what federal law says. Isn’t that great?

So much for rule of law.

No. It Is on hold waiting for a lower court decision.

Citizens still vote.

[gounion]

No. It Is on hold waiting for a lower court decision.

Citizens still vote.

No. The order to stop from the judge is on hold. The governor can continue the purge.

[Greengrass]

No. The order to stop from the judge is on hold. The governor can continue the purge.

And citizens can still vote

[Greengrass]

So here’s the law

“A) A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.
(B) Subparagraph (A) shall not be construed to preclude—
(i) the removal of names from official lists of voters on a basis described in paragraph (3)(A) or (B) or (4)(A) of subsection (a); or
(ii) correction of registration records pursuant to this chapter.”

“Systematically” is an interesting qualifier. That would be a program to purge based on a failure to vote for 10 years.

In this case it’s an external list of self identified non citizens.

So “ (A) at the request of the registrant;” applies

Here’s the link

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/20507

[gounion]

So here’s the law

“A) A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.
(B) Subparagraph (A) shall not be construed to preclude—
(i) the removal of names from official lists of voters on a basis described in paragraph (3)(A) or (B) or (4)(A) of subsection (a); or
(ii) correction of registration records pursuant to this chapter.”

“Systematically” is an interesting qualifier. That would be a program to purge based on a failure to vote for 10 years.

In this case it’s an external list of self identified non citizens.

So “ (A) at the request of the registrant;” applies

Here’s the link

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/20507

Who needs rule of law when you have a Supreme Court that ignores it?

[ap215]

Pennsylvania judge extends mail ballot deadline after Trump lawsuit

WASHINGTON, Oct 30 (Reuters) - A judge in the swing state of Pennsylvania extended until Friday the deadline for Bucks County voters to request a mail-in ballot after Donald Trump's campaign sued alleging that some supporters seeking ballots were improperly turned away.

In the lawsuit filed on Wednesday, the Trump campaign along with Republican U.S. Senate candidate Dave McCormick and the Republican National Committee said a county office sent voters home on Tuesday who formed long lines ahead of a 5 p.m. deadline to apply for a mail-in ballot.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-ord ... 024-10-30/

[Number6]

So, it’s a hold.

“But in a one-paragraph order on Wednesday morning, the court granted the state’s request to put Giles’ order on hold while the challenge to the voter-purge program continues in the lower court.”

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/10/supr ... ter-rolls/

Additional note.

“ Virginia has same-day voter registration meaning that any eligible voter who was removed from the rolls should still be able to vote on Election Day or during the early voting period that ends on Nov. 2.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... rcna177673

So, if an American citizen who is legally registered to vote and was purged from the voters rolls, how would they know they were purged?

What happens if an American citizen who is legally registered to vote and received a mail-in ballot and already voted by mail, how would they know if they were purged and their vote canceled?

[Greengrass]

So, if an American citizen who is legally registered to vote and was purged from the voters rolls, how would they know they were purged?

What happens if an American citizen who is legally registered to vote and received a mail-in ballot and already voted by mail, how would they know if they were purged and their vote canceled?

Well, those voting in person wouldn’t be on the book. Virginia has same day registration so they register and vote.

There is the possibility of notification at the last address they have.

If they get purged after mailing it may get counted.

Keep in mind this is a list of self identified non citizens. Apparently some have gained citizenship afterwards. So they should contact the proper authorities. Or just show up to vote and see if they are on the rolls.

[Greengrass]

Who needs rule of law when you have a Supreme Court that ignores it?

I’d say what I posted calls that into question.

And what about the rule of law that say noncitizens can’t register to vote. Which, by the way, that prohibition is in the same legislation with the purge rule.

Again, self identified non citizens. Those that became citizens afterward can vote on Tuesday.

[Glennfs]

Who needs rule of law when you have a Supreme Court that ignores it?

Which is the exact reason progressives want to add 4 justices to SCOTUS

[ap215]

Botswana president concedes election defeat, BDP loses power after 58 years

Botswana’s President Mokgweetsi Masisi has conceded defeat as preliminary results showed his governing party lost its parliamentary majority after nearly six decades in power.

Masisi’s concession on Friday came before the final results were announced, with his Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) trailing in fourth place, according to tallies by the electoral commission.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/ ... sults-show

[gounion]

I’d say what I posted calls that into question.

And what about the rule of law that say noncitizens can’t register to vote. Which, by the way, that prohibition is in the same legislation with the purge rule.

Again, self identified non citizens. Those that became citizens afterward can vote on Tuesday.

Funny how ever other judge said, yes, but you can’t do purge rolls 90 days before the election, because, you know, LAW, and they won’t be voting anyway.

But the Trump judges say “fuck the law”.

[gounion]

Which is the exact reason progressives want to add 4 justices to SCOTUS

The GOP blocked Obama from getting a Justice, and made sure that Trump got ANOTHER one.

Perfectly fine with you.

[Greengrass]

Funny how ever other judge said, yes, but you can’t do purge rolls 90 days before the election, because, you know, LAW, and they won’t be voting anyway.

But the Trump judges say “fuck the law”.

So you don’t understand what the law actually says. Not surprised.

And, of course, citizens can still vote. So, there’s that.

[gounion]

So you don’t understand what the law actually says. Not surprised.

And, of course, citizens can still vote. So, there’s that.

I guess the other judges didn’t either, eh?

What part of “you can’t do any purges ninety days before an election” do you not understand?