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TFG's lawyers met with Special Counsel Jack Smith today signaling what many commentators are saying is an indication that TFG will be indicted very soon. So the question is when will he be indicted? My thinking is he'll be indicted before the beginning of August because Smith needs to present the evidence to the grand jury and then he'll have to get Garland to sign-off the indictment to prosecute.

My prediction is he'll wait to indict after the 4th of July so I predict it will be sometime in the week of July 10th to the 14th.
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We can only hope.
Up until now most of the legal problems up to now have been painfully politically motivated. What comes from Ford's office will or should be non political and based in fact.
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Mark Meadows testified to federal grand jury in special counsel probe of Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/politics ... index.html

So, the UK Independent is claiming Meadows pled guilty and is now offering to flip and provide testimony in return for immunity. But I can find no verification of this claim in other outlets.

That said, we do know the grand jury did interview Meadows under oath, they did interview 20 Secret Service agents, they did issue a subpoena for Steve Bannon, and that Trump is most definitely a target of the documents investigation.

As usual, some outlets are claiming there will be indictment of him tomorrow or this week by SC Smith. In reality, unfortunately, we still don't know.

Drumpf is now claiming that a pool flooding at Mierda-Lardo somehow destroyed the server room where surveillance footage potentially showing how the documents were stored and handled was kept. Very convenient. These floods always seem to strike whenever he's under investigation. :lol:
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It sounds like Smith is presenting evidence to three different grand juries. Listening to pundits on TV yesterday, one said the reason is if a grand jury doesn't indict then those charges can't be used later in another grand jury. So by presenting evidence to three grand juries Smith is increasing the odds in his favor of indicting TFG.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:31 pm We can only hope.
Up until now most of the legal problems up to now have been painfully politically motivated. What comes from Ford's office will or should be non political and based in fact.
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Don't worry, you'll be on board attacking the indictment as a "partisan witch hunt" and will buy all of Trump's attacks on the Special Prosecutor.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:36 pm Don't worry, you'll be on board attacking the indictment as a "partisan witch hunt" and will buy all of Trump's attacks on the Special Prosecutor.

And you believe he is guilty of a 1979 rape with zero evidence.
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Trump says he has been indicted. He 'blasted' this out on his Untruth Antisocial.

Of course, he can't be trusted on anything, but it seems news outlets are confirming this.

Donald Trump indicted for second time, in classified documents investigation: Sources
https://abcnews.go.com/US/donald-trump- ... d=99408228

Former President Donald Trump has been indicted for a second time, this time on federal charges in relation to his handling of classified information while out of office, sources familiar confirm to ABC News.

He has been issued a summons to appear in federal court in Miami on Tuesday at 3 p.m. ET, sources said.

“We’re learning from our sources that there appears to be at least seven counts here. This ranges from everything from the willful retention of national defense information to conspiracy to a scheme to conceal to false statements and representations," ABC News' Katherine Faulders reported on during a special report on the network.

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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:46 pm And you believe he is guilty of a 1979 rape with zero evidence.
A jury was sure convinced. Especially since he could do nothing but lie about the case. And, he bragged about attacking women. He sure is a kidder!

But don't worry, you'll be braying his talking points soon enough.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:34 pm A jury was sure convinced. Especially since he could do nothing but lie about the case. And, he bragged about attacking women. He sure is a kidder!

But don't worry, you'll be braying his talking points soon enough.
The jury didn't find TFG raped her but found that he sexually abused her.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:34 pm A jury was sure convinced. Especially since he could do nothing but lie about the case. And, he bragged about attacking women. He sure is a kidder!

But don't worry, you'll be braying his talking points soon enough.
OK I agree from this point forward Trump and Clinton are both rapists.
One because a jury of people who hate him decided that 4 decades ago he raped a woman. Based on no evidence beyond Trump is an asshole.
Clinton because he paid off the woman he raped to avoid going to court.
Surely you can see the irony and absurdity of both positions.
But, let's not turn this thread into a discussion of former presidents who raped women.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:57 am OK I agree from this point forward Trump and Clinton are both rapists.
One because a jury of people who hate him decided that 4 decades ago he raped a woman. Based on no evidence beyond Trump is an asshole.
Clinton because he paid off the woman he raped to avoid going to court.
Surely you can see the irony and absurdity of both positions.
But, let's not turn this thread into a discussion of former presidents who raped women.
I know, Trump is innocence unbound. He never did anything. Everything is a witch hunt. The Speaker of the House says it's a witch hunt, and we know you support him. They're all just out to get poor Donald.

Glenn, how many times has Clinton been found responsible for attacks on women in court?

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Trump charged with 37 counts in classified documents case, indictment says

The criminal indictment against Donald Trump over his handling of classified government records was unsealed Friday.

The 37-count indictment was made public a day after the former president was charged in the case by a grand jury in U.S. District Court in Miami.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/09/trump-i ... ealed.html
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Here's the link to the indictment document.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 53.3.0.pdf
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Joe and Glenn will be running away from this subject.
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Number6 wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:32 pm Here's the link to the indictment document.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 53.3.0.pdf
We'll do something that Glenn and Joe will NEVER do. We'll read the indictment.
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:x

Judge Aileen Cannon is back in play in Trump’s documents case

After a surprise geographical shift to Florida in Donald Trump’s documents case, one of the latest dramatic developments is an old character from the saga making a fresh appearance: Aileen Cannon.

If Cannon sounds familiar, it’s because she’s the Trump-appointed judge who effectively tried to help the former president gum up the works in the Justice Department’s initial investigation. NBC News confirmed Friday that she has been assigned to initially oversee the DOJ’s case against Trump.

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-ho ... -rcna88560
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CNN Headline: Special counsel urges Americans to read indictment against Trump

Which is why Glenn and Joe WON'T read it. They won't want facts getting in the way of their Trump worship.
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gounion wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:39 pm CNN Headline: Special counsel urges Americans to read indictment against Trump

Which is why Glenn and Joe WON'T read it. They won't want facts getting in the way of their Trump worship.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:15 pm What is it with you and the unprovoked flame wars?
No flame war at all. Just dealing in FACTS. You won’t read the indictment, because you WANT to remain IGNORANT of the facts, so that you can attack the DoJ and pretend that this is just a witch hunt and Donald Trump is innocent as the driven snow.

Plus, you just can’t read anything that long.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1clQmq

Dumbest crime imaginable according to the article. Even dumber is if he had just turned them in when asked none of this would have happened. But, his ego wouldn't allow him to do so.

IMHO his ego is the root cause of most of his troubles, the dumb things he has done and most of the events in his life.

I believe he is one of those people who has a problem with what or how he anticipates what people are saying or thinking about him.

Which leads him to over compensate by being a braggert about what he has, what he has done and what he can do.

Which would explain why in business he plastered his name on everything and over estimated his net worth.

Why in his personal life he kept marrying then divorcing then marrying women who he believed would make other men envious.

Why in his political life he brought those Russians into the oval office. Kept documents he shouldn't have. Then refused to turn them in when requested.

He going through life thinking the rules simply don't apply to Donald Trump. I have no doubt that he would brag to people "I have boxes full of classified information down stairs that would make your head spin".

Now that he has been investigated by a real prosecutor. Not some local DA paying off his constituents or some county prosecutor trying for higher office. His day of reconing has arrived.

Next up will his ego allow him to take a plea deal. If he does take a plea deal will his ego allow him to abide by the terms. Or will his ego cause him to go through the entire legal process. Dragging this out for years.

I am betting the latter


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gounion wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:40 pm No flame war at all. Just dealing in FACTS. You won’t read the indictment, because you WANT to remain IGNORANT of the facts, so that you can attack the DoJ and pretend that this is just a witch hunt and Donald Trump is innocent as the driven snow.

Plus, you just can’t read anything that long.
I am sure that you will read, comprehend and understand every word of the entire 44 page document.
After all it was only written by people who have 6 to 8 years of college. Been to our country's finest law schools and have been in the legal profession for decades.
While you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Maybe I will just wait until professionals explain it in laymen’s terms.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:20 am I am sure that you will read, comprehend and understand every word of the entire 44 page document.
After all it was only written by people who have 6 to 8 years of college. Been to our country's finest law schools and have been in the legal profession for decades.
While you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Maybe I will just wait until professionals explain it in laymen’s terms.
It’s written in plain English, Glenn. It’s not lawyerspeak. But you’ll never know that, because the LAST thing you’ll EVER do is open the document. You’re too scared of it.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:16 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1clQmq

Dumbest crime imaginable according to the article. Even dumber is if he had just turned them in when asked none of this would have happened. But, his ego wouldn't allow him to do so.

IMHO his ego is the root cause of most of his troubles, the dumb things he has done and most of the events in his life.

I believe he is one of those people who has a problem with what or how he anticipates what people are saying or thinking about him.

Which leads him to over compensate by being a braggert about what he has, what he has done and what he can do.

Which would explain why in business he plastered his name on everything and over estimated his net worth.

Why in his personal life he kept marrying then divorcing then marrying women who he believed would make other men envious.

Why in his political life he brought those Russians into the oval office. Kept documents he shouldn't have. Then refused to turn them in when requested.

He going through life thinking the rules simply don't apply to Donald Trump. I have no doubt that he would brag to people "I have boxes full of classified information down stairs that would make your head spin".

Now that he has been investigated by a real prosecutor. Not some local DA paying off his constituents or some county prosecutor trying for higher office. His day of reconing has arrived.

Next up will his ego allow him to take a plea deal. If he does take a plea deal will his ego allow him to abide by the terms. Or will his ego cause him to go through the entire legal process. Dragging this out for years.

I am betting the latter


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You’re trying to make excuses for him, as always. No, Glenn, he’s corrupt and a criminal. He needs to be in prison for his crimes against this country.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:30 am You’re trying to make excuses for him, as always. No, Glenn, he’s corrupt and a criminal. He needs to be in prison for his crimes against this country.
No it is called being objective and speculating on his personality and behavior.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:40 am No it is called being objective and speculating on his personality and behavior.
No, it’s making excuses for him. It’s hilarious how you think that every damned Democrat in existence has committed many crimes and schools be in prison, but you’re pretending that Trump didn’t really do anything wrong, and his ego just got him in trouble for something innocent. You also say he’s innocent in any criminal activity surrounding January 6th. You still insist it’s a “protest that got out of hand”.
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