Mental Health and mass shootings

[gounion]

Every time there's a mass shooting, Republicans, including our two on this board, says, first, to just "enforce the laws already on the books", and then to pay more attention to mental health in our nation.

But that's all bullshit, isn't it, guys? Right, Glenn? Right, Joe?

[Number6]

republicans for year have run on Guns, God, and Gays and with the gay issue gone (now it's transgenders) all they have left is Guns and God. They believe school teachers should be carrying guns in schools, everyone should have a gun, and that everyone should be open-carrying their guns to deter mass shooters. But the more guns in circulation means more people who shouldn't have access or ownership of a gun do. But in order for people to protect themselves from these people they have to go out and buy a gun or buy more guns. IOWs, republicans and the gun lobby have created a vicious cycle putting profit over people's lives.

They also want to "put God back in the classroom" meaning prayer because the nation has strayed from "God's word," whatever that is. Here's the problem, every time there's a mass shooting they ask for prayers but apparently "God" isn't listening because they keep happening. They say it's "God's will" but then when challenged they claim God gave man "free will" which is an excuse for their God not answering their prayers. If God isn't answering their prayers then maybe, just maybe, God doesn't give a damn about them.

So the question is why do people (republicans) continue to fall for these two cons? It's not because they stupid or gullible but because they don't think things through beyond a bumper sticker slogan. They fall for so many false "beliefs" that it would take a significant emotional event for them to change their minds. Or perhaps they just need someone they trust to teach them how question their beliefs rather than just accept them a face value.

Me, I prefer to listen to someone who can make a coherent argument and make me think and examine my position on an issue rather than just telling me their position and demanding I accept it unquestioningly.

[Glennfs]

Every time there's a mass shooting, Republicans, including our two on this board, says, first, to just "enforce the laws already on the books", and then to pay more attention to mental health in our nation.

But that's all bullshit, isn't it, guys? Right, Glenn? Right, Joe?

They could start by enforcement of the federal law about lying on your application.

Except for HB of course he is above the law according to you

[JoeMemphis]

They could start by enforcement of the federal law about lying on your application.

Except for HB of course he is above the law according to you

Here’s a couple of questions for Number6. If we are not able or willing to enforce laws already on the books, why do you think passing yet another law will do any good?

It has become fashionable these days for state and local governments to simply ignore Federal laws they find unpopular, inconvenient or “immoral”. The same will happen with any Federal Law that “goes to far” as it applies to firearms. How do you propose we put the whole concept of “sanctuary” cities and states back in the bottle?

Or are we just supposed to believe that simply passing more gun laws is the only answer to this problem without question? Because that seems to be the only answer the “left” predominately wants to offer. Are we to believe or is it your assertion that merely passing more gun laws “solves” this problem? I don’t see it. I don’t see that that proposal is well reasoned or well thought out. No one is addressing how you will enforce such laws in the current environment. So far it’s all wishful thinking.

[gounion]

Here’s a couple of questions for Number6. If we are not able or willing to enforce laws already on the books, why do you think passing yet another law will do any good?

It has become fashionable these days for state and local governments to simply ignore Federal laws they find unpopular, inconvenient or “immoral”. The same will happen with any Federal Law that “goes to far” as it applies to firearms. How do you propose we put the whole concept of “sanctuary” cities and states back in the bottle?

Or are we just supposed to believe that simply passing more gun laws is the only answer to this problem without question? Because that seems to be the only answer the “left” predominately wants to offer. Are we to believe or is it your assertion that merely passing more gun laws “solves” this problem? I don’t see it. I don’t see that that proposal is well reasoned or well thought out. No one is addressing how you will enforce such laws in the current environment. So far it’s all wishful thinking.

You talk about "enforcing current laws" - but your side is passing laws like "stand your ground" and "open carry". And again, the question - do you REALLY care about mental health and guns? Yes or no?

[JoeMemphis]

You talk about "enforcing current laws" - but your side is passing laws like "stand your ground" and "open carry". And again, the question - do you REALLY care about mental health and guns? Yes or no?

I’m interested in hearing what 6 has to say. You didn’t answer the questions. You are just deflecting.

[gounion]

I’m interested in hearing what 6 has to say. You didn’t answer the questions. You are just deflecting.

Yeah, you like to ask questions but you're too gutless to answer them.

I'm talking about the OP, and that issue. You're just trying to divert instead of addressing the issue of the thread. Where do you stand on mental health and guns?

[JoeMemphis]

Yeah, you like to ask questions but you're too gutless to answer them.

I'm talking about the OP, and that issue. You're just trying to divert instead of addressing the issue of the thread. Where do you stand on mental health and guns?

So ignore me and go chat up someone else. As I said, I’m curious what 6 thinks. I know all I need or want to know about what you think.

[gounion]

So ignore me and go chat up someone else. As I said, I’m curious what 6 thinks. I know all I need or want to know about what you think.

You sure are a gutless wonder. You talk a good game but always run away. All you can do is attack what others say, you can't make any points on your own, you're too dumb.

We're curious what YOU think. You and Glenn have talked up mental health and guns, but I say you're both full of shit, and you don't give a rat's ass about mental health and guns.

[JoeMemphis]

You sure are a gutless wonder. You talk a good game but always run away. All you can do is attack what others say, you can't make any points on your own, you're too dumb.

We're curious what YOU think. You and Glenn have talked up mental health and guns, but I say you're both full of shit, and you don't give a rat's ass about mental health and guns.

If you are curious what I think. Answer my questions. Then I’ll answer yours. That’s how discussions work.

[gounion]

If you are curious what I think. Answer my questions. Then I’ll answer yours. That’s how discussions work.

Sorry, but I asked first. Check out the title and opening post of the thread. Didn't they teach you that kind of thing in Kindergarten?

[JoeMemphis]

Sorry, but I asked first. Check out the title and opening post of the thread. Didn't they teach you that kind of thing in Kindergarten?

Sorry, but I responded to Number 6. You responded to my post.

[gounion]

Sorry, but I responded to Number 6. You responded to my post.

Again, you’ve talked about demanding getting your questions answered. Why are YOU so fucking scared to answer a simple question and take a stand?

[Glennfs]

Sorry, but I asked first. Check out the title and opening post of the thread. Didn't they teach you that kind of thing in Kindergarten?

You never answer any questions

[gounion]

You never answer any questions

I answer them all the time. How about you? Mental health and mass shootings? Should we do anything?

[gounion]

Why are you both so damned scared to discuss mental health and mass shootings?

[JoeMemphis]

Again, you’ve talked about demanding getting your questions answered. Why are YOU so fucking scared to answer a simple question and take a stand?

You are the one making demands here. I don’t give a shit either way. If you are all that curious then answer my questions. Otherwise, I got a baseball game to watch.

[gounion]

You are the one making demands here. I don’t give a shit either way. If you are all that curious then answer my questions. Otherwise, I got a baseball game to watch.

No, I started the thread. You came here of your own free will. I didn’t force you.

Why are you so gutless you’re scared to address the issue on the thread?

[JoeMemphis]

No, I started the thread. You came here of your own free will. I didn’t force you.

Why are you so gutless you’re scared to address the issue on the thread?

You are also the one making demands. I don’t give a shit whether you answer my questions or not. I wasn’t addressing my comments to you anyway. So answer or don’t answer. Up to you. Your own free will. I will exercise my own free will and ignore your demands. How’s that? Everybody exercising free will.

[gounion]

You are also the one making demands. I don’t give a shit whether you answer my questions or not. I wasn’t addressing my comments to you anyway. So answer or don’t answer. Up to you. Your own free will. I will exercise my own free will and ignore your demands. How’s that? Everybody exercising free will.

Quit blaming everyone but yourself. And what I REALLY think is funny is how you said you had a ball game to watch - but you just can’t help yourself, you come back anyway. Even as you say you’re ignoring me.

I knew you guys can’t stand up for your own views. You run away. All you can do is bitch about other people’s views - that’s because you have no principles of your own.

You can’t even discuss mental health and guns. That’s because you don’t have any principles.

[JoeMemphis]

Quit blaming everyone but yourself. And what I REALLY think is funny is how you said you had a ball game to watch - but you just can’t help yourself, you come back anyway. Even as you say you’re ignoring me.

I knew you guys can’t stand up for your own views. You run away. All you can do is bitch about other people’s views - that’s because you have no principles of your own.

You can’t even discuss mental health and guns. That’s because you don’t have any principles.

Top of the 3rd. 2 away. Kentucky 4 Tenn 0

Weather delay

[gounion]

Top of the 3rd. 2 away. Kentucky 4 Tenn 0

So you’re saying you can do two things at once? Then why did you say the ball game would keep you too busy?

[JoeMemphis]

So you’re saying you can do two things at once? Then why did you say the ball game would keep you too busy?

Show where I said that.

[gounion]

Show where I said that.

You said you were busy, had a baseball game to watch. I figured you were done for a few hours. As usual, you can’t keep your word on anything.

You spend more time running away than if you just answered the question. It’s funny to see how scared you two are.

[JoeMemphis]

You said you were busy, had a baseball game to watch. I figured you were done for a few hours. As usual, you can’t keep your word on anything.

You spend more time running away than if you just answered the question. It’s funny to see how scared you two are.

Weather delay. And you run away more than either Glenn or I combined.

So bottomline, I asked a couple of questions related to gun policy. On topic in my opinion. I did so in response to a post by another poster. So you responded to my post with another set of questions you demand I answer. I’m not interested in your question but will answer if you bother to respond to mine. I have watched you run away from questions before. It’s best to get paid in advance when dealing with you. So answer or run. It’s your call. Your free will.