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[Glennfs]

I want my child to learn things that are important, even if it makes him uncomfortable.

Then you or his dad teach him those things. Would you want a teacher who was an evangelical Christian teaching from their perspective.

There is a reason why we are behind in math and science and that reason is obvious

[gounion]

Florida school bans “ABCs of Black History” age 5 and up from elementary school. The ABCs of Black History https://a.co/d/2o5nShb

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 71496.html

[gounion]

Then you or his dad teach him those things. Would you want a teacher who was an evangelical Christian teaching from their perspective.

There is a reason why we are behind in math and science and that reason is obvious

No. Religion isn’t taught in public schools. Schools are for facts.

You want to censor history.

[Glennfs]

No. Religion isn’t taught in public schools. Schools are for facts.

You want to censor history.

Listen genius I wasn't talking about religious teaching.
You don't want to teach history. You want to indoctrinate children so they like you believe that Cuba has better human rights than the USA

[gounion]

Listen genius I wasn't talking about religious teaching.
You don't want to teach history. You want to indoctrinate children so they like you believe that Cuba has better human rights than the USA

I want to teach real history. Not Donald Trump history.

You want to censor history.

[Glennfs]

I want to teach real history. Not Donald Trump history.

You want to censor history.

You mean things like Cuba has better human rights than the USA

[gounion]

You mean things like Cuba has better human rights than the USA

You couldn’t tell the truth to save your life, could you? I DARE you to show me where I said that.

You fucking liar.

[Glennfs]

You couldn’t tell the truth to save your life, could you? I DARE you to show me where I said that.

You fucking liar.

Re: MS judge strips trans girl of her human rights.

[gounion]

Re: MS judge strips trans girl of her human rights.

Yeah. YOU brought up Cuba, not me.

[Glennfs]

You couldn’t tell the truth to save your life, could you? I DARE you to show me where I said that.

You fucking liar.

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Here you go it took me awhile to get the link to copy.
You say you are appalled that Cuba has a better record on human rights than the USA.

Waiting for apologies about being called a fucking liar

[gounion]

viewtopic.php?p=60577#p60577

Here you go it took me awhile to get the link to copy.
You say you are appalled that Cuba has a better record on human rights than the USA

You brought up Cuba, not me. http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.p ... uba#p60559

[Glennfs]

You brought up Cuba, not me. http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.p ... uba#p60559

Again I picked Cuba because it was the easiest to spell. But you believe what you want including that Cuba hadca better record on human rights than the USA


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[gounion]

Again I picked Cuba because it was the easiest to spell. But you believe what you want including that Cuba hadca better record on human rights than the USA


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I did mean they had a better record on gay rights, which Toonces pointed out. Toonces also pointed out that their overall human rights record wasn’t very good. I stand corrected on the overall record, but stand by the gay rights point.

And let’s be clear: YOU brought up Cuba first, then lied about it. Aren’t you proud of yourself?

[Toonces]

Then you or his dad teach him those things. Would you want a teacher who was an evangelical Christian teaching from their perspective.

There is a reason why we are behind in math and science and that reason is obvious

He goes to a Christian school.

Teachers don't indoctrinate. That doesn't happen. They don't have time to teach those things outside of what they are supposed to teach.

If teaching math, science, reading, writing, geography, history, et al, is indoctrination, then we have a fundamental disagreement about what indoctrination actually means.

Is allowing children to read books on Ruby Bridges indoctrination? Because it's books like that which have some parents complaining that their child will feel bad? If they shouldn't be touching on those subjects, tell me why? Why should a child learn about her? Or MLK? Or Martina Navratilova?

Explain to me why the teaching of these figures should be excluded from schools. If a parent doesn't want their child to learn it, I'll conclude them a poor parent, but why should their opinions preclude 24 other students from learning it?

[Glennfs]

He goes to a Christian school.

Teachers don't indoctrinate. That doesn't happen. They don't have time to teach those things outside of what they are supposed to teach.

If teaching math, science, reading, writing, geography, history, et al, is indoctrination, then we have a fundamental disagreement about what indoctrination actually means.

Is allowing children to read books on Ruby Bridges indoctrination? Because it's books like that which have some parents complaining that their child will feel bad? If they shouldn't be touching on those subjects, tell me why? Why should a child learn about her? Or MLK? Or Martina Navratilova?

Explain to me why the teaching of these figures should be excluded from schools. If a parent doesn't want their child to learn it, I'll conclude them a poor parent, but why should their opinions preclude 24 other students from learning it?

We have people here who believe that 6 years old is the proper age to teach about Bridges and the atrocities of that era

[gounion]

We have people here who believe that 6 years old is the proper age to teach about Bridges and the atrocities of that era

That’s what educators think should be taught. If they’re old enough to be threatened like Ruby Bridges was, then they are old enough to learn about it.

It’s something that you have no problem with what happened to that girl, and you want to censor it so children won’t learn.

You don’t want anyone to learn about the atrocities of the era.

[Glennfs]

That’s what educators think should be taught. If they’re old enough to be threatened like Ruby Bridges was, then they are old enough to learn about it.

It’s something that you have no problem with what happened to that girl, and you want to censor it so children won’t learn.

You don’t want anyone to learn about the atrocities of the era.

Yes I do want 6 year old children protected from things they are to young to understand.
But you want to traumatize them because that little girl was traumatized.

You are both ignorant and clueless

[Glennfs]

I did mean they had a better record on gay rights, which Toonces pointed out. Toonces also pointed out that their overall human rights record wasn’t very good. I stand corrected on the overall record, but stand by the gay rights point.

And let’s be clear: YOU brought up Cuba first, then lied about it. Aren’t you proud of yourself?

Do you really believe that Cuba has a better record on gay rights. I mean you personally.

I told you 4 times why I picked Cuba but we are all supposed to believe your explanation while you ignore mine

[Toonces]

We have people here who believe that 6 years old is the proper age to teach about Bridges and the atrocities of that era

But is that is where it's occurring? Not in grade 4?

Typically, grade 1 is for concentrating on the basics. Reading, writing, basic math. Maybe even learn who Ruby Bridges was. That's not going to traumatize the children. By the time they are 9, I think it's time to start teaching these things. If that's too much for someone's precious child to learn, they can go to the library during the instruction.

Children can handle it better than adults give them credit for.

What I do take issue with is children having to learn to treat wounds from a mass shooting. If you're more concerned with a child learning about Ruby Bridges than learning how to put pressure on a gunshot wound, something is really, really, really fucked up.

[Drak]

Then you or his dad teach him those things. Would you want a teacher who was an evangelical Christian teaching from their perspective.

There is a reason why we are behind in math and science and that reason is obvious

What a stupid comment. This isn’t about religion. No one on the left here is against math and science. Well, except republicans, who are anti science.

[Number6]

Somebody please tell me how drag shows are more dangerous to children that churches are.

More than 450 Catholic clergy in Illinois sexually abused nearly 2,000 children since 1950, the state’s attorney general found in an investigation released Tuesday, revealing that the problem was far worse than the church had let on.

Attorney General Kwame Raoul said at a news conference that investigators found that 451 Catholic clergy abused 1,997 children in Illinois between 1950 and 2019, though he acknowledged that the statute of limitations has expired in many cases and that those abusers “will never see justice in a legal sense.”

“It is my hope that this report will shine light both on those who violated their positions of power and trust to abuse innocent children, and on the men in church leadership who covered up that abuse,” Raoul said, crediting the accusers for making the review possible. “These perpetrators may never be held accountable in a court of law, but by naming them here, the intention is to provide a public accountability and a measure of healing to survivors who have long suffered in silence.”
https://apnews.com/article/catholic-cle ... 316bfe7b4b

[Glennfs]

Somebody please tell me how drag shows are more dangerous to children that churches are.

380,000 churches in the USA. To be fair and accurate we would need to see numbers from recent history, say the last 10 years.
The numbers you found go back over 70 years. No doubt to make the authors point look relevant

[Toonces]

The Catholic Church can and probably should go to hell as a whole.

The majority of Catholics are good people, but not all. The organization is evil.

Drag shows. Still not dangerous. People in drag, reading to childing. Not evil.

[Number6]

380,000 churches in the USA. To be fair and accurate we would need to see numbers from recent history, say the last 10 years.
The numbers you found go back over 70 years. No doubt to make the authors point look relevant

And over those 72 years, how many children were abused at drag shows or by drag queens?

[ProfX]

US judge blocks Florida ban on trans minor care in narrow ruling, says ‘gender identity is real’
https://apnews.com/article/transgender- ... 00012c8865

A federal judge temporarily blocked portions of a new Florida law championed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis that bans transgender minors from receiving puberty blockers, saying in a Tuesday ruling that gender identity is real and the state has no rational basis for denying patients treatment.

Judge Robert Hinkle issued a preliminary injunction, saying three transgender children can continue receiving treatment. The lawsuit challenges the law DeSantis signed shortly before he announced a run for president.

“Gender identity is real. The record makes this clear,” Hinkle said, adding that even a witness for the state agreed.

Transgender medical care for minors is increasingly under attack — Florida is among 19 states that have enacted laws restricting or banning treatment. But it has been available in the United States for more than a decade and is endorsed by major medical associations.

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