2024 Presidential Election

[Libertas]

Yes, Biden is not only doing a better job than almost any previous prez, he is doing everything for the country, the people.

This is why board con HATES him.

When board cons and GOP take our 401k's and investments, I hope the push back is SEVERE

When the cons lie and blame Biden for the debt ceiling, I might get mad...I hope everybody gets REAL mad

[JoeMemphis]

Most of what's gone wrong in this country can be related, with varying percentages of causality, to de-industrialization. One of the biggest causes has to be the Republican rush (admittedly with considerable Democratic concurrence) to offshoring and outsourcing. This was a thinly veiled move by the transnational oligarchy to bust unions and bring down manufacturing costs. I cannot think of anything else, including gun violence and covid, that has done as much to run down this country and make its people more vulnerable to fascist rhetoric.

The Republicans, backed by the elite, and encouraged at thousands of exclusive soirees in the mansions of Bel-Air and the Hamptons, foisted this ruinous policy on us. It was great for the owners of large corporations (and I include the major stockholders here, though not the average investors). It was a bonanza for China, which is now our worst enemy but one which also keeps a large chunk of the retail sector afloat. Either way, China wins. Meanwhile Russia is on the move in Europe. Cold War over, we lost.

There are many resulting problems beyond the general social malaise that has characterized the past 30 years. One of the worst ones is that you can't get anything electronic repaired right now. No parts. Parts are back-ordered for many months or even years. Also a lot of entrepreneurs, who Republicans are supposed to like, can't stay in business for the same reason. I can think of one maker of a popular cutting-edge digital radio who has had to close down forever due to the parts shortage. It's also why you wait six months to a year if you special-order a car. It's also a big reason for inflation.

Biden didn't push the CHIPS act to look good politically. He's trying to save this frackin country from its transnational oligarch class which destroyed its economic system. All he gets for it is criticism and more investigations of Hunter's laptop.

Honestly, if bullshit was money, this country would own China.

Some of this makes sense when viewed without the political spin. Businesses are operated by both parties and you make it sound like Republicans lead a bunch of unwitting Dems overseas. That’s not how it works in my experience. Business, Finance, Economics, Money and banking in the business community is fairly agnostic.

We are a global economy and must compete with companies beyond our borders. That said, we should do what we can reasonably do to protect our industrial base. I think we can all agree to that.

[gounion]

Some of this makes sense when viewed without the political spin. Businesses are operated by both parties and you make it sound like Republicans lead a bunch of unwitting Dems overseas. That’s not how it works in my experience. Business, Finance, Economics, Money and banking in the business community is fairly agnostic.

We are a global economy and must compete with companies beyond our borders. That said, we should do what we can reasonably do to protect our industrial base. I think we can all agree to that.

The Republicans you vote for don't agree to that.

[Motor City]

Why Biden may have to forfeit the first contest in his re-election bid to Marianne Williamson or RFK Jr.

....New Hampshire's largest union announced Tuesday that it is not endorsing Biden, saying, "New Hampshire voters deserve a competitive Democratic Primary."....

[gounion]

[Glennfs]

Some of this makes sense when viewed without the political spin. Businesses are operated by both parties and you make it sound like Republicans lead a bunch of unwitting Dems overseas. That’s not how it works in my experience. Business, Finance, Economics, Money and banking in the business community is fairly agnostic.

We are a global economy and must compete with companies beyond our borders. That said, we should do what we can reasonably do to protect our industrial base. I think we can all agree to that.

One of the farms near me was developed into an industrial park, it was on Turkey Farm Road. One of the first companies that went in would only do so if the name was changed.
Because one of the countries they do business with [ I think it was Greece] is Muslim and Turkey there was slang for penis. Thet feared that they would lose business if they were located on Oenis Farm Road.
The county quickly changed the name ti Park Place Road.

[gounion]

One of the farms near me was developed into an industrial park, it was on Turkey Farm Road. One of the first companies that went in would only do so if the name was changed.
Because one of the countries they do business with [ I think it was Greece] is Muslim and Turkey there was slang for penis. Thet feared that they would lose business if they were located on Oenis Farm Road.
The county quickly changed the name ti Park Place Road.

Got a link for that?

[Motor City]

Washington Journal
Marianne Williamson on Her 2024 Presidential Bid

Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson talked about her platform, policy objectives, and what she sees as her path to victory in the 2024 presidential election.

[ZoWie]

Well, we know the Greeks and Turks have an agreement not to get along. The penis thing is a new one on me, but I suspect most words Greeks use for Turks are not flattering.

The last thing the Democratic Party needs is minor candidates. They'll become offshore money sinks and unwitting double agents for the Republicans.

Joe Biden might not be the perfect president, but he's gotta beat getting drumpf back or having de stupid outlawing alternative sexuality.

[Number6]

Well, we know the Greeks and Turks have an agreement not to get along. The penis thing is a new one on me, but I suspect most words Greeks use for Turks are not flattering.

I checked my translation app on my phone and couldn't find that but it may be an idiom for one of the languages.

The last thing the Democratic Party needs is minor candidates. They'll become offshore money sinks and unwitting double agents for the Republicans.

The hurdle third party candidates have is breaking through the media barrier. H. Ross Perot is the only candidate that's done that in the past 40 years and he helped get Clinton elected. I seriously doubt any third party candidate will help the republicans or hurt the Democrats.

Joe Biden might not be the perfect president, but he's gotta beat getting drumpf back or having de stupid outlawing alternative sexuality.

Is he the lesser of two evils? No, he's the best qualified candidate to be president.

[Motor City]

UAW isn't ready to endorse Biden for another term yet, UAW president says. Here's why

....The letter to members, dated Tuesday, noted that President Joe Biden announced his reelection campaign on April 25, and that other national unions were "quick to endorse," but that the United Auto Workers is "not yet making an endorsement."....

https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/statu ... 0921532417

Marianne Williamson is running for President.

[ProfX]

Robert Kennedy Jr. to make campaign debut at bitcoin conference
The environmentalist turned presidential candidate is positioning himself as a defender of cryptocurrency, despite its massive environmental footprint.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... -rcna83123

WASHINGTON — Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s first appearance as a presidential candidate will be at a cryptocurrency conference in Miami this month as the iconoclastic Democrat embraces a controversial industry that environmentalists say is a major contributor to climate change.

[snip]

The only other political leaders speaking at Bitcoin 2023 are Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy — who said he considered picking Kennedy as his running mate — Sen. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo., Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla., former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and the governor of the Indonesian state of West Java.

[snip]

As U.S. regulators look to impose new guardrails on cryptocurrency, Kennedy defended the industry from what he called an “extra-legal war on crypto” and suggested the “FDIC/SEC war on crypto caused failures of [Silicon Valley Bank], Signature and Silvergate banks.”

]snip]

The White House this week proposed a 30% excise tax on electricity used in crypto mining, which it said would make miners “pay their fair share of the costs imposed on local communities and the environment.”

Kennedy opposes the tax as “a bad idea,” suggesting in his Twitter thread that bitcoin's environmental impact has been ginned up by nefarious actors.

[snip][end]

Weird how who used to be one of the country's biggest opponents of coal mining is all in for crypto mining.

[Glennfs]

Robert Kennedy Jr. to make campaign debut at bitcoin conference
The environmentalist turned presidential candidate is positioning himself as a defender of cryptocurrency, despite its massive environmental footprint.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... -rcna83123

WASHINGTON — Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s first appearance as a presidential candidate will be at a cryptocurrency conference in Miami this month as the iconoclastic Democrat embraces a controversial industry that environmentalists say is a major contributor to climate change.

[snip]

The only other political leaders speaking at Bitcoin 2023 are Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy — who said he considered picking Kennedy as his running mate — Sen. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo., Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla., former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and the governor of the Indonesian state of West Java.

[snip]

As U.S. regulators look to impose new guardrails on cryptocurrency, Kennedy defended the industry from what he called an “extra-legal war on crypto” and suggested the “FDIC/SEC war on crypto caused failures of [Silicon Valley Bank], Signature and Silvergate banks.”

]snip]

The White House this week proposed a 30% excise tax on electricity used in crypto mining, which it said would make miners “pay their fair share of the costs imposed on local communities and the environment.”

Kennedy opposes the tax as “a bad idea,” suggesting in his Twitter thread that bitcoin's environmental impact has been ginned up by nefarious actors.

[snip][end]

Weird how who used to be one of the country's biggest opponents of coal mining is all in for crypto mining.

I wonder what the real motive is behind him running?

[ZoWie]

Something to consider, Biden would be 86 at the end of a 2nd term.

Ronzo was no spring chicken either, and for a time many if not most Americans treated him like a demigod.

[ProfX]

Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden. He will be 78 in 2024. If (horrors) he served a second term, he would be 82 years old at the time he finished in 2028. Reagan was 77 years old when he left office.

I find it really weird how age is an issue for some folks for one of them but not the other. I will confess I know what the actuary tables are on U.S. life expectancy and one would have to be honest about either of them possibly not surviving till end of term. That said, I have full confidence VP Harris (I assume she will remain on the ticket) could step up to the job.

I am not a diagnostic professional but I have to confess those who claim Biden is suffering from dementia but Trump is in full possession of his faculties ... well, ... sorry Dr. Ronny Jackson, doesn't seem that way to me.

Would I prefer somebody younger on the ticket? Yeah, I'm in that camp. How I'm going to vote in 2024 ... well, as I often say, we really have no idea what will happen between now and then. No, I do not find RFK Jr. or Ms. Williamson better alternatives.

[ZoWie]

Ronzo could barely remember what day it was, and people loved him just that much more for it.

It's all in the eyes of the beholder, and it's all crafted by skilled propagandists.

[Glennfs]

Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden. He will be 78 in 2024. If (horrors) he served a second term, he would be 82 years old at the time he finished in 2028. Reagan was 77 years old when he left office.

I find it really weird how age is an issue for some folks for one of them but not the other. I will confess I know what the actuary tables are on U.S. life expectancy and one would have to be honest about either of them possibly not surviving till end of term. That said, I have full confidence VP Harris (I assume she will remain on the ticket) could step up to the job.

I am not a diagnostic professional but I have to confess those who claim Biden is suffering from dementia but Trump is in full possession of his faculties ... well, ... sorry Dr. Ronny Jackson, doesn't seem that way to me.

Would I prefer somebody younger on the ticket? Yeah, I'm in that camp. How I'm going to vote in 2024 ... well, as I often say, we really have no idea what will happen between now and then. No, I do not find RFK Jr. or Ms. Williamson better alternatives.

You would think that people our age would remember that for the last two years of his second term there was a decline in Reagan's mental health.

Just like it is obvious that Biden’s decline is much more visible. Maybe because of the internet.

But the age of Reagan and his mental decline should show all of us that Biden and Trump are both to old for the job.
Regardless of whether or not you believe both.or either are showing their age.

Even if both men were sharp as a tack. The presidency is a 12 to 15 hour a day job. If anyone believes that a person in their 80s has the energy to be president then that person is a special kind of stupid.

[gounion]

You would think that people our age would remember that for the last two years of his second term there was a decline in Reagan's mental health.

Just like it is obvious that Biden’s decline is much more visible. Maybe because of the internet.

But the age of Reagan and his mental decline should show all of us that Biden and Trump are both to old for the job.
Regardless of whether or not you believe both.or either are showing their age.

Even if both men were sharp as a tack. The presidency is a 12 to 15 hour a day job. If anyone believes that a person in their 80s has the energy to be president then that person is a special kind of stupid.

You denied for years that there was anything wrong with Reagan while he was President. You held up his physicians saying there was nothing wrong with him. But I guess, for political reasons, you go Judas on Reagan too. Hilarious to see.

[Libertas]

TX is gonna make sure Democrats cant vote

https://truthout.org/articles/texas-hou ... ing-sites/

n Friday, lawmakers in the Texas House passed a bill that would allow certain election workers to carry handguns in a proposal that voting rights advocates say would decrease voter participation and create an atmosphere of intimidation at polling sites.

The Republican-sponsored bill would allow election judges, or the presiding officer at a polling place, and some poll workers to carry handguns at polling sites on Election Day and during early voting. The bill, H.B. 636, passed 95 to 50 on Friday, with several Democrats joining Republicans in voting “yes.”

The proposal now heads to the state Senate, where its fate is unclear. The Texas house passed a similar bill in 2021, but it died in the Senate, per the Dallas Morning News.

This is whey I have to disengage. Cons will now shoot me if I try and vote, and nobody is talking about it.

[Libertas]

wow, you cons really are nazis

Wisconsin drops from 4th to 47th in voter access ranking

https://captimes.com/news/government/wi ... a8147.html

[Glennfs]

TX is gonna make sure Democrats cant vote

https://truthout.org/articles/texas-hou ... ing-sites/







This is whey I have to disengage. Cons will now shoot me if I try and vote, and nobody is talking about it.

I have a person in my family just like you. Except they believe it is the liberals who are going to go after the conservatives.
I often wonder what happened in both your lives and in the lives of those like minded to screw them up so bad.

[gounion]

I have a person in my family just like you. Except they believe it is the liberals who are going to go after the conservatives.
I often wonder what happened in both your lives and in the lives of those like minded to screw them up so bad.

We wonder the same about you. Someone who has always said they support gay rights, but are so quick to jump on board with going after them.

[Glennfs]

We wonder the same about you. Someone who has always said they support gay rights, but are so quick to jump on board with going after them.

Another purity test if a person doesn't support 100pct of the gay agenda they are anti gay.
That is a ridiculous belief on your part.

[Libertas]

We wonder the same about you. Someone who has always said they support gay rights, but are so quick to jump on board with going after them.

Badge of honor when a trump defending rightwinger attacks you...hell, you have way more than I do...badges of honor, that is.

[Drak]

So now the gay community has an agenda. Yeah, the agenda is to be treated equally. The cons here are liars. They never supported gay rights. Period. They are bigots.