2024 Presidential Election

[ap215]

I've always wondered whether RFK jr is a double agent. He had a show on the late great Air America which spread a lot of anti-vax nonsense, so we know he's good at fooling lefties into thinking he's on their side. He isn't. There is no dark conspiracy to inject brain toxins into your kids.

Don't buy his line of shit. He's a DINO.

I clearly remember this too Z he & Mike Papantonio were an incredible duo on AA then they did their solo show Ring Of Fire in various places then for some reason he decided to move on it's sad that he's gone the other way to join the dark side with the conservatives still don't understand why he has zero chance for the nomination.

[ZoWie]

Well, everybody moved on after the right wing counterattack to leftie talk radio succeeded in driving sponsors away and running it off the air. We know where Rachel Maddow wound up, and of course Al Franken went to the Senate until he was run out by the scared Democratic mainstream on a trumped up, pun intended, kerfuffle over touching a woman's ass.

[Motor City]

"Media outlets like MSNBC are lying to their viewers, pretending that Marianne Williamson and Robert Kennedy Jr. don’t exist."

There's a similarity here of the denial of candidates running for president in the 2024 election and trumps denial of the 2016 results. Both are self serving and somewhat delusional and geared at undoing democracy. Doesn't really square well with lecturing people on democracy and the peaceful transfer of power.

Anti-Biden Democrats Unpersoned

Given how early in the race it is, Biden’s rivals already pose a surprisingly significant threat to the incumbent: 10% of Democrats say they’ll vote for Kennedy, 4% for Williamson in a Morning Consult poll. Kennedy does even better among some key demographics: women and voters over 65, both of whom turn out in heavy numbers. An Echelon Insights poll shows Williamson surging, now at 10%.

When I sat down with Bernie Sanders to research my bestselling graphic biography, it was June 2015–two months later in the race—and the Vermont senator was polling 1% to 2% of Democrats. Yet he went on to nearly defeat establishment favorite Hillary Clinton; he might have succeeded if not for the DNC putting their corrupt thumbs on the scale. At this stage, 10% each for Kennedy and Williamson is impressive.

Kennedy is political royalty and Williamson is a well-known author and previous Democratic primary candidate. Yet media outlets like MSNBC are lying to their viewers, pretending that they don’t exist and that Biden is running (or might run) unopposed. Resistance is futile. Get used to it......

....The unpersonings of Williamson and RFK Jr. elevate old-school shading to the level of Orwell: No one has ever opposed Joe Biden. No one will oppose Joe Biden. Joe Biden will run unopposed—especially when he is opposed.

[bradman]

There's a similarity here of the denial of candidates running for president in the 2024 election and trumps denial of the 2016 results. Both are self serving and somewhat delusional and geared at undoing democracy. Doesn't really square well with lecturing people on democracy and the peaceful transfer of power.

Anti-Biden Democrats Unpersoned

oxymoronic announcement that’s he’s not announcing (“I plan on running, Al, but we’re not prepared to announce it yet”), isn’t the President actually, you know, announcing that he’s running for reelection?

oxymoronic? That's kinda harsh.

[ap215]

Translation He wants to vote Trump back at The White House

Elon Musk Reveals He Voted For Biden In 2020 — Now He Wants A 'Normal Person' With 'Common Sense' As Next President

Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who tweeted his support for Republicans in the 2022 midterm elections, revealed that he voted for Joe Biden in the last presidential election.

What Happened: The Billionaire, in an interview with Fox News’ Tucker Carlson, said he voted for Biden because Donald Trump wasn't the answer, either.

https://www.benzinga.com/news/23/04/318 ... se-as-next

[ap215]

No chance he'll get elected.

Larry Elder: "I'm running for the presidency of the United States"

Conservative radio host Larry Elder announced Thursday evening that he's running for the Republican nomination for the 2024 presidential election.

The big picture: Elder, who unsuccessfully ran as a candidate in a California recall election aimed at unseating Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) in 2021, joins a growing field of Republican candidates, including front-runner former President Trump.

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/21/larry- ... l-election

[ap215]

Biden set to name Julie Chavez Rodriguez as 2024 campaign manager

President Biden is set to name Julie Chavez Rodriguez, a senior West Wing official and longtime Democratic Party activist, to manage his reelection campaign, three people familiar with the ongoing deliberations tell CBS News.

Chavez Rodriguez currently serves as a senior adviser and assistant to the president — among the highest staff positions in the West Wing — and director of the White House Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, which makes her responsible for outreach to mayors, county executives and governors, especially regarding implementation of the Biden administration's agenda and in response to natural or other large-scale disasters.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-juli ... eelection/

[ap215]

It's official he's running for re-election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChjibtX ... l=JoeBiden

[JoeMemphis]

It's official he's running for re-election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChjibtX ... l=JoeBiden

Wow. Really exciting news. 1 post all day. impressive.

[Motor City]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJVsM0ynINI

Marianne Williamson Talks Run For President, Universal Healthcare, Support For Reparations + More

https://marianne2024.com/

[Glennfs]

Joe Biden's reelection strategy
Hope that Republican primary voters elect Donald Trump to be the nominee.
Trump the only Republican he can defeat.

[gounion]

Joe Biden's reelection strategy
Hope that Republican primary voters elect Donald Trump to be the nominee.
Trump the only Republican he can defeat.

Bullshit. He will beat anyone. All the right wants to do is ban abortions, gay marriage and all LGBTQ+. They don't give a shit about the problems in our country. They don't have what it takes to deal with Putin, Xi and Kim. And they want to shut the government down.

[Glennfs]

Bullshit. He will beat anyone. All the right wants to do is ban abortions, gay marriage and all LGBTQ+. They don't give a shit about the problems in our country. They don't have what it takes to deal with Putin, Xi and Kim. And they want to shut the government down.

https://apnews.com/article/ap-norc-poll ... e2b1db03f6

Even democrats don't want him to run again.
His poll numbers are historically low. While he is not hated or disrespected voters recognize the fact that he is a piss poor president.
If the republican party can figure out a way to not nominate Trump and keep Trump from torpedoing the nominee. Biden will lose and it will not be close.

I would love to see DeSantis/ Tim Scott

[gounion]

https://apnews.com/article/ap-norc-poll ... e2b1db03f6

Even democrats don't want him to run again.
His poll numbers are historically low. While he is not hated or disrespected voters recognize the fact that he is a piss poor president.
If the republican party can figure out a way to not nominate Trump and keep Trump from torpedoing the nominee Biden will lose and it will not be close.

I would love to see DeSantis/ Tim Scott

So you are hoping to ban abortions and gay people. Got it.

DeSantis is a horrible candidate. And I'm sorry, but if you put a black man on the GOP ticket, about a third of your party won't vote. That's just reality. AT LEAST a third of your party are white supremacists.

And as for Biden's ratings? Reality check: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... residents/

Biden’s job rating is fairly comparable to Ronald Reagan’s (42%) and Bill Clinton’s (41%) at this stage of their presidencies, but lower than Barack Obama’s (46%). Those three presidents – like Biden – lost ground over their first two years in office.

[ap215]

Asa Hutchinson formally launches 2024 presidential campaign

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) formally launched his presidential campaign on Wednesday after announcing he was going to run for the 2024 Republican nomination earlier this month.

“Today I’m announcing that I’m a candidate for president of the United States,” Hutchinson said in Bentonville, Ark.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3 ... -campaign/

[gounion]

I wonder if our conservatives, and the small percentage of the GOP that isn't full-bore Trumpers really understand how this GOP primary is going to go. They seem to think that some conservative, Ron DeSantis the most likely to them, will just overtake Trump as he's bogged down with indictments and convictions.

That won't be the way it goes. Donald Trump will NOT go quietly into the night.

Let's remember a few things: In his fevered mind, Donald Trump has NEVER lost an election. If it says he lost, he'll say the vote is rigged and he's the REAL winner. That's what he said every time he lost a primary election. That was what he was planning to do when he lost the 2016 national election to Hillary Clinton. He was going to scream for the next four years he was the REAL President. He didn't plan to actually win.

And that's how he'll approach this year's primary season. He CONTROLS the base of the party, whether Glenn or Joe want to admit it or not. 81% of Republicans like Donald Trump. Republican candidates are scared shitless of Trump, and when he attacks them, they will fall apart.

The one-two of his popularity and effective attacks on his opponents among the GOP base, plus his ready-to-go attacks on the people running the elections if he does lose a primary vote, ensure that he's going to be the nominee.

Anyone on the right is welcome to explain how that isn't true.

The big problem is that he can ONLY win primaries. Two in three American do NOT want to see a second Trump Presidency, including two-thirds of independent voters. https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/a-s ... residency/

That's the reality check. Another Biden/Trump election will mean a big Biden win.

[Drak]

Yep. Trump will be the nominee. Indictments won’t stop him.

[ZoWie]

Vigilance will be necessary. The Russian intelligence agencies, and those of China and other hostile countries, will be planting black-propaganda ads and bogus stories all over social media, often with the blessings of the system owners. The Nooz will be all about Hunter's laptop all the time. The big media will give the Republican candidate a pass while questioning every word that comes out the Democrat's mouth.

This will have to be the biggest grass roots get out the vote campaign in US history, and it should start soon.

[Glennfs]

Vigilance will be necessary. The Russian intelligence agencies, and those of China and other hostile countries, will be planting black-propaganda ads and bogus stories all over social media, often with the blessings of the system owners. The Nooz will be all about Hunter's laptop all the time. The big media will give the Republican candidate a pass while questioning every word that comes out the Democrat's mouth.

This will have to be the biggest grass roots get out the vote campaign in US history, and it should start soon.

I doubt we see many stories about the 200 million on contracts the Biden administration is giving to Chinese companies

[gounion]

I doubt we see many stories about the 200 million on contracts the Biden administration is giving to Chinese companies

GW Bush gave China permanent Most Favored Nation status.

Biden is standing up the the Chinese, and bringing manufacturing work BACK to the USA.

Which is why you want him to lose the next election, right?

And Glenn, I have told you for YEARS that China is not our friend, we shouldn't be trading with them like we are. I have said that a nation that gives away their manufacturing are selling their sovereignty. All that time you disagreed with me.

I have never changed my principles. Do you have any at all?

[gounion]

Wow. So, this, from Tim Scott, Glenn's second-favorite Senator, who plans to run for President: https://sports.yahoo.com/tim-scott-says ... 16799.html

"The enemy for the American people is the left"

Now we understand where Glenn is coming from. We on this board are the enemy of America. I wonder if he gets power, what Glenn would like to see done to us all. Prison? Firing Squad?

[Glennfs]

Wow. So, this, from Tim Scott, Glenn's second-favorite Senator, who plans to run for President: https://sports.yahoo.com/tim-scott-says ... 16799.html



Now we understand where Glenn is coming from. We on this board are the enemy of America. I wonder if he gets power, what Glenn would like to see done to us all. Prison? Firing Squad?

We have a person here who has said and believes much worse than this out of context quote.
You have never said anything about hus beliefs. You are a hypocrite.

[gounion]

We have a person here who has said and believes much worse than this out of context quote.
You have never said anything about hus beliefs. You are a hypocrite.

It's not out of context. It's a direct quote.

I am an enemy of America.

And you won't stand against his comment, of course. You just attack ME for pointing it out.

[Libertas]

Wow. So, this, from Tim Scott, Glenn's second-favorite Senator, who plans to run for President: https://sports.yahoo.com/tim-scott-says ... 16799.html



Now we understand where Glenn is coming from. We on this board are the enemy of America. I wonder if he gets power, what Glenn would like to see done to us all. Prison? Firing Squad?

The enemy of the human race is the GOP, this is plain and obvious.

I have never said they should be arrested, by the way, for being republicans. I did say that if someone could show me where I said that I would retract it, but so far nothing. We know who that someone is.

[ZoWie]

Most of what's gone wrong in this country can be related, with varying percentages of causality, to de-industrialization. One of the biggest causes has to be the Republican rush (admittedly with considerable Democratic concurrence) to offshoring and outsourcing. This was a thinly veiled move by the transnational oligarchy to bust unions and bring down manufacturing costs. I cannot think of anything else, including gun violence and covid, that has done as much to run down this country and make its people more vulnerable to fascist rhetoric.

The Republicans, backed by the elite, and encouraged at thousands of exclusive soirees in the mansions of Bel-Air and the Hamptons, foisted this ruinous policy on us. It was great for the owners of large corporations (and I include the major stockholders here, though not the average investors). It was a bonanza for China, which is now our worst enemy but one which also keeps a large chunk of the retail sector afloat. Either way, China wins. Meanwhile Russia is on the move in Europe. Cold War over, we lost.

There are many resulting problems beyond the general social malaise that has characterized the past 30 years. One of the worst ones is that you can't get anything electronic repaired right now. No parts. Parts are back-ordered for many months or even years. Also a lot of entrepreneurs, who Republicans are supposed to like, can't stay in business for the same reason. I can think of one maker of a popular cutting-edge digital radio who has had to close down forever due to the parts shortage. It's also why you wait six months to a year if you special-order a car. It's also a big reason for inflation.

Biden didn't push the CHIPS act to look good politically. He's trying to save this frackin country from its transnational oligarch class which destroyed its economic system. All he gets for it is criticism and more investigations of Hunter's laptop.

Honestly, if bullshit was money, this country would own China.