2024 Presidential Election

[gounion]

No. I believe he’s not fit to hold the office.

Then you DON'T believe them. Got it.

[gounion]

Let's not rehash that Biden is already retired. However I will say people without dementia don't talk to dead relatives.

"Let's not rehash that?" You rehash it every fucking day.

[gounion]

I don't believe Trump is a clear and present danger to our nation if elected.

The nation didn't come to an end when he was President. It won't come to an end if he is elected again. Don't fall for the alarmist rhetoric.

What do you believe will occur if he wins the election?

Trump won't have guardrails this time if he's elected. He won't be appointing Attorney Generals or Generals that will stand up to him, he will be appointing ONLY MAGA loyalists that will obey his every order, legal or not. Let's remember the only reason January 6th wasn't FAR worse for our nation was that his Vice President didn't obey his direct orders and declare Trump the President on January 6th. Trump wanted Pence to reject state's elector's outright, so that the election would have then went to the Congress and Senate, where every state had one vote to elect the President. The states would have then elected Trump. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-pence ... interview/

Mike Vance has already said he would have performed as ordered, unlike Pence.

Also, Project 2025. Trump's loyalists have set this all up. There is video of Trump at the Heritage Foundation praising the plans his people and Heritage was putting together for his second term. Trump is lying when he says he didn't know about it and that it's not his plan. It is. Just like he's lying when he says everyone in America wanted abortion to go back to the states.

The main plan is to have mass firings of all government employees and install MAGA loyalists. Heritage has spent the last years interviewing and putting together huge lists of MAGA loyalists for Trump to replace them with. This is going back to the old spoils system where every government employee was hired by the President for political loyalty, not ability to do the job. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -employees

This is how his second Presidency will be different, and he will do things that will be difficult if not impossible to be undone.

[Greengrass]

Then you DON'T believe them. Got it.

They say he’s unfit for office I believe them.

He’s never been fit for office. He’s odious.

But Ted is correct.

[gounion]

They say he’s unfit for office I believe them.

He’s never been fit for office. He’s odious.

But Ted is correct.

No, they say he's a fascist, and you say you don't believe them.

[Greengrass]

No, they say he's a fascist, and you say you don't believe them.

Fascist tendencies. Got a long, long way to go for fascism. He’s a walking advertisement for talk is cheap.

And they are saying he’s unfit for office.

[gounion]

Fascist tendencies. Got a long, long way to go for fascism. He’s a walking advertisement for talk is cheap.

And they are saying he’s unfit for office.

They are saying he's a fascist.

But you always have to stick up for Dear Leader, don't you?

I notice you guys never speak up for Harris when Trump calls her a Communist and Fascist.

[Glennfs]

They are saying he's a fascist.

But you always have to stick up for Dear Leader, don't you?

I notice you guys never speak up for Harris when Trump calls her a Communist and Fascist.

So you were lying when you told me you first.

[gounion]

So you were lying when you told me you first.

You want to shut up the generals when they are sounding the warning on Trump.

But it's fine for Trump - and you - to use such language.

But then, we're all communists and probably need to be deported along with all the brown-skinned people too, right?

[Greengrass]

They are saying he's a fascist.

But you always have to stick up for Dear Leader, don't you?

I notice you guys never speak up for Harris when Trump calls her a Communist and Fascist.

They are also saying he’s unfit.

Since I pretty much ignore what he says about people I’m not likely to respond to things I haven’t heard.

[gounion]

They are also saying he’s unfit.

Since I pretty much ignore what he says about people I’m not likely to respond to things I haven’t heard.

What a weak fucking excuse. Bullshit.

They are saying he's unfit BECAUSE he's a fascist. But hey, you know better than they do, don't you?

[gounion]

I would love that to happen

Are you fucking crazy, Glenn? Do you know what that would do to our nation. We’d probably REALLY have a civil war - there would certainly be blood in the streets, as Trump would use that as PROOF that he was duly elected, and it’s just a big conspiracy, and the right would CERTAINLY be saying that ONLY the person elected by popular vote can be the only one to be President - never mind the last two elections.

This isn’t a fucking game, Glenn, this is deadly serious with real consequences. But you don’t care, do you?

[ap215]

Harris-Walz 2024 - You Will Be Protected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zNmmiYjDgQ

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Harris-Walz 2024 - Ondrea's Story

https://youtu.be/WGCVxgcxJRo?si=j7ZXWjDTCLKpR4Ad

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Harris-Walz 2024 - Ceasar

https://youtu.be/1JBCiz4jJeA?si=2vP_KrPjLy7OU5M3

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Harris-Walz 2024 - Mark Cuban and Kamala Harris on Trump's Plans for the Economy (First Look)

https://youtu.be/VkcwpTFAhQg?si=yy1VGGp19Mvt1WRI

[gounion]

And he’s subject to the checks and balances that all presidents are.

You mean like a Supreme Court that, for the first time in history, gave Trump criminal immunity for his actions as President?

[gounion]

Fascist tendencies. Got a long, long way to go for fascism. He’s a walking advertisement for talk is cheap.

And they are saying he’s unfit for office.

You’re a walking advertisement for being a Trump apologist. “Oh, don’t worry, he doesn’t REALLY plan to do the things he says he plans to do! He’s not REALLY a dictator-loving man who wants to be just like his heroes, and wants to punish his enemies! Those generals are wrong!”

[gounion]

What gets me about ALL FOUR OF YOU GUYS is that you won’t listen to those sounding the warning, and you say you all know more than them. Bob Woodward: https://www.rawstory.com/here-is-what-t ... test-fear/

In 10 days, Americans will decide whether to keep Vice President Kamala Harris in the White House, or to send former President Donald Trump back for a second term.

And legendary journalist Bob Woodward is giving voters a stark warning.

CNN host Christiane Amanpour invited Woodward onto her Saturday program to talk about his new book, "War." The longtime Washington Post reporter spoke specifically about how the former president approaches national security situations, and makes decisions almost exclusively based on his own judgment rather than on the collective input of those around him.

"This is a moment of great peril for the country, and we should not kid ourselves," Woodward said of how Trump would potentially handle a nuclear crisis.

Woodward's book, which hit shelves earlier this month, contained multiple revelations about how Trump engaged with foreign leaders. He reported that Trump had as many as seven private conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin after he left office, and even reportedly sent him multiple Covid-19 tests during the height of the pandemic while there was a nationwide test shortage.

In describing what makes the former president so dangerous, Woodward — who broke the news of the bombshell Watergate scandal with his Post colleague Carl Bernstein – pointed to Trump's mercurial and unpredictable nature. Amanpour acknowledged the portion of his book in which former Joint Chief of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, who Trump appointed to head the U.S. military in 2019, told Woodward that his former boss was a "fascist to the core."

"Are you concerned that this kind of character, who has written and spoken about admiring people like Putin, people like Xi [Jinping], others, Orbán in Hungary, are you worried about what they might do in office?" Amanpour asked.

"Here is what Trump doesn't do. He doesn't plan. He just says, 'Oh, I'm going to pick that off the shelf. That idea, I'm gonna save this.' There's no planning system," he continued. "In a national security environment, you're not running a roulette wheel where random numbers come up. You need to plan."

"And in the case of Trump, there's no team! He just decides," he added. "The absence of a team — the absence of a plan — is what everyone should weigh and worry about."

But you all know more than Bob Woodward does.

[Glennfs]

What gets me about ALL FOUR OF YOU GUYS is that you won’t listen to those sounding the warning, and you say you all know more than them. Bob Woodward: https://www.rawstory.com/here-is-what-t ... test-fear/



But you all know more than Bob Woodward does.

Nobody here is voting for or supporting Trump

[gounion]

Nobody here is voting for or supporting Trump

But every damned one of you is coming to his defense, saying he’s no danger to our nation, even when generals who worked for him are telling you that he is? Why his plan to fire everyone at every level of government, and replace them with MAGA loyalists who will obey Trump’s every order?

[Greengrass]

You mean like a Supreme Court that, for the first time in history, gave Trump criminal immunity for his actions as President?

Immunity for “Official Acts” which are to be determined by the courts.

[Greengrass]

But every damned one of you is coming to his defense, saying he’s no danger to our nation, even when generals who worked for him are telling you that he is? Why his plan to fire everyone at every level of government, and replace them with MAGA loyalists who will obey Trump’s every order?

Oh, he’s a danger. That’s why the checks and balances are so important.

[gounion]

Immunity for “Official Acts” which are to be determined by the courts.

You mean by the Supreme Court, since there hasn’t been criminal immunity for Presidents for over 200 years. So how does a judge decide, since they know that the Supreme Court will just overrule them.

If they’re going to make whole new law, it should be up them the lay out how that law is to be judged.

[Greengrass]

You mean by the Supreme Court, since there hasn’t been criminal immunity for Presidents for over 200 years. So how does a judge decide, since they know that the Supreme Court will just overrule them.

If they’re going to make whole new law, it should be up them the lay out how that law is to be judged.

Yeah, that’s what the constitution does. And federal judges in particular interpret.