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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XXUJ448eaI

Marianne Williamson is Running For President

https://marianne2024.com/

Making an anouncement at 2pm today
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Maybe we will get lucky again and the 3rd party candidate can give us another term of trump a a term of desatan, which will end America once and for all for sure

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Motor City wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:56 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XXUJ448eaI

Marianne Williamson is Running For President

https://marianne2024.com/

Making an anouncement at 2pm today
She has a rather interesting Wiki page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Williamson
Williamson said that the book was her "path out of hell," as she had been "mired in a series of unhappy love affairs, alcohol and drug abuse, a nervous breakdown, and endless sessions with therapists."[19][20][21][17] She was captivated by the book's message on forgiveness, specifically the notion that one cannot find peace in life without forgiving others. Williamson said that made her realize "how many of my problems stemmed from my fear of other people."[7]

The Course has often been described as a religion or pseudoreligion.[22][23] Williamson disagrees:

A Course in Miracles [is] a self-study program in spiritual psychotherapy. It is a book that is based on universal spiritual themes. It is not a religion. It does not claim any kind of monopoly on truth. It has no dogma. It has no doctrine. It talks about love and forgiveness and I think that many of the people who are students of A Course in Miracles come from all religions and even no religion. The book says nothing about [Jesus]. The book does not get us to try to believe in God. [...] The book tries to get us to believe in each other.[24]
Her lectures were grounded in her belief that by consulting the Course, every problem can be solved, and that miracles are possible through a change in perspective.[7] According to Williamson, "All that a miracle is is a shift in perception from fear to love. It’s simply the notion that when your world view changes, your behavior changes".[25]
In 1998 Williamson co-founded the non-profit Global Renaissance Alliance (GSA) with Conversations with God author Neale Donald Walsch.[26] The organization established a network of "citizen salons" to pray for national growth, peace and liberal causes.

According to Williamson, the GSA sat in small groups, "Peace Circles", of fewer than 12 people every other week and prayed together to articulate a vision for what they want, rather than what others don't want.[64]

In 2004 the GSA's name was changed to The Peace Alliance and given a new mandate focused on grassroots education and advocacy organization with the intent of increasing U.S. government support for peace-building approaches to domestic and international conflicts. The Peace Alliance taught peace activists how to lobby their congressional representatives.[65] Williamson said of the need for this work:

You don't just wait until there is a violent eruption and then just try to throw people in jail or just wait until there is a violent eruption and then try to bomb an entire country, there's just a limit past which this is not workable. Rather, you proactively seek to cultivate the conditions of peace. [...] [S]o we can have a much more sophisticated analysis of what it will take to create a more peaceful world."[66]

The Peace Alliance seeks the establishment of a U.S. Department of Peace. In 2005 Williamson traveled to Washington to help Congressman Dennis Kucinich's effort to establish the department.

The Alliance has raised over $100 million in funding for international peace-building. It has also helped get provisions of the Youth PROMISE Act, embedded in the Every Student Succeeds Act, passed into law.[67] The California Democratic Party adopted key Peace Alliance priorities into its platform.
i can see why you're diggin' on her. She has quite the list of volunteering for some good causes.
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It is either laugh or cry time...I guess laughing at how insane this is, is the way to go

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She will get as many delegates in 2024 as she did in 2020. (Hint: zero.) It's a vanity campaign.

I agree with her progressive stance on many issues, but she still seems like a New Age flake to me, and not a serious candidate, plus she lacks any prior political experience.
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bradman wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:33 pm

She has a rather interesting Wiki page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Williamson






i can see why you're diggin' on her. She has quite the list of volunteering for some good causes.
I think she nailed it. Was very good today.
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ProfX wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:29 pm She will get as many delegates in 2024 as she did in 2020. It's a vanity campaign.

I agree with her progressive stance on many issues, but she still seems like a New Age flake to me, and not a serious candidate, plus she lacks any prior political experience.
Wasnt it 70,000 votes over 3 states that made the difference in 2016?

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Motor City wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:30 pm I think she nailed it. Was very good today.
8-) You're a good egg MC.

Killing them with love is a tuff row to hoe. Thank you for tending to it.

i think her wiki page needs some updating. It still has us in Afghanistan and says nothing about police forces.

But what's there for her 2024 presidential campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Williamson lines up with the democratic party and then some.

Having read it twice and twice stopped here.........
Native American reconciliation
Williamson supports returning dominant control of the Black Hills to the Sioux Nation, halting construction of the Keystone Pipeline, recognizing tribal sovereignty over their territory. She also supports increasing funding to Native lands’ justice systems, protecting tribal sovereignty and governance, and protecting Native religious freedom.[131]

Williamson has expressed support for "rethinking treaties" and continuing annual tribal nations' summits in Washington D.C.[131]
That one hit one of my soft spots. On that she absolutely has my vote. 8-)
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She is the only announced candidate in the 2024 Democratic primary. Joe Biden has "said" he will run again, but has not officially filed yet; doesn't have to I think for a few months.

On the issues, she's awesome. There's very little I disagree with her on. Some of her remarks on health and vaccination she says have been taken out of context. I agree with her position of slavery reparations - don't know how that will "sell" to the public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles

Olav Hammer locates A Course in Miracles in the tradition of channeled works from those of Madam Blavatsky through to the works of Rudolf Steiner[15] and notes the close parallels between Christian Science and the teachings of the Course.[25] Hammer called it "gnosticizing beliefs".[26] In "'Knowledge is Truth': A Course in Miracles as Neo-Gnostic Scripture" in Gnosis: Journal of Gnostic Studies, Simon J. Joseph outlines the relationship between the Course and Gnostic thinking.[19] Daren Kemp also considers ACIM to be neo-Gnostic and agrees with Hammer that it is a channeled text.[16] The course has been viewed as a way which "integrates a psychological world view with a universal spiritual perspective" and linked to transpersonal psychology.

[snip][end]

I think it's a great message, that we should love one another, been promoted by philosophers, poets, artists, and mystics ... I guess one doesn't have to read a channeled work to arrive at that conclusion.

At the end of the day, a POTUS needs to be effective, able to work with Congress, and should have some political experience. If the primary is between her and Biden, I'm still ridin' with Biden. We'll see if anyone else gets in. I think anyone who wants to be able to ... unlike the RNC in 2020, the DNC should have a fair and open process.

I hope she continues her excellent advocacy on many issues, including Native sovereignty.
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Democracy is running against a pro Putin fascist lunatic who is vowing retribution. At this point the only serious candidate is the incumbent.
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BTW: looking at the other party's primary ...

There are now four announced Republican candidates for 2024. Haley and Trump, but also ...
https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2024

Vivek Ramaswamy (entrepeneur/commentator) and Corey Stapledon. (He's the former Montana Sec of State.)

Ron deSantis is also still not a formally announced/filed candidate. At CPAC, the straw poll gave Trump 62 percent and deSantis 20 percent.
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Desantis is Trump light, and doesn’t stand a chance against Trump. They will also fill the primary with lots of candidates again to guarantee victory for their party leader.
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ProfX wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:08 am She is the only announced candidate in the 2024 Democratic primary. Joe Biden has "said" he will run again, but has not officially filed yet; doesn't have to I think for a few months.

On the issues, she's awesome. There's very little I disagree with her on. Some of her remarks on health and vaccination she says have been taken out of context. I agree with her position of slavery reparations - don't know how that will "sell" to the public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles

Olav Hammer locates A Course in Miracles in the tradition of channeled works from those of Madam Blavatsky through to the works of Rudolf Steiner[15] and notes the close parallels between Christian Science and the teachings of the Course.[25] Hammer called it "gnosticizing beliefs".[26] In "'Knowledge is Truth': A Course in Miracles as Neo-Gnostic Scripture" in Gnosis: Journal of Gnostic Studies, Simon J. Joseph outlines the relationship between the Course and Gnostic thinking.[19] Daren Kemp also considers ACIM to be neo-Gnostic and agrees with Hammer that it is a channeled text.[16] The course has been viewed as a way which "integrates a psychological world view with a universal spiritual perspective" and linked to transpersonal psychology.

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I think it's a great message, that we should love one another, been promoted by philosophers, poets, artists, and mystics ... I guess one doesn't have to read a channeled work to arrive at that conclusion.

At the end of the day, a POTUS needs to be effective, able to work with Congress, and should have some political experience. If the primary is between her and Biden, I'm still ridin' with Biden. We'll see if anyone else gets in. I think anyone who wants to be able to ... unlike the RNC in 2020, the DNC should have a fair and open process.

I hope she continues her excellent advocacy on many issues, including Native sovereignty.
I'm with ProfX. We need people in office who know how to get things done.
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Former MD GOP Governor Larry Hogan has announced he will NOT be running for President in 2024, proving there is no room for sanity in the GOP.
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Drak wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:13 am Democracy is running against a pro Putin fascist lunatic who is vowing retribution. At this point the only serious candidate is the incumbent.
Jill Stein was a big part of why a moron fascist liar became president.

This 3rd party stuff is ABSOLUTE MADNESS and anyone who supports a 3rd party NOW is DIRECTLY contributing to murder and fascism.
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Libertas wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:55 am Jill Stein was a big part of why a moron fascist liar became president.

This 3rd party stuff is ABSOLUTE MADNESS and anyone who supports a 3rd party NOW is DIRECTLY contributing to murder and fascism.
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i've never really given her a chance to speak. i wonder why. Anyway, she is good....

Marianne Williamson - Running for President on a Morality-Driven Platform | The Daily Show(it is 3 yrs. old)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTO-BsdRO1w

i can't remember disagreeing with any of what she said during the interview. Cool, calm, collected, and in depth. Sure am glad she's a member of the Democratic party. People like her keep me honest. i hope she does continue her work.
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gounion wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:02 am Former MD GOP Governor Larry Hogan has announced he will NOT be running for President in 2024, proving there is no room for sanity in the GOP.
According to you Ben Jealous is better qualified to be governor of Maryland.
Proving no room for common sense in the democratic party
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:12 pm According to you Ben Jealous is better qualified to be governor of Maryland.
Proving no room for common sense in the democratic party
According to you Lindsey Graham is a good Senator. ‘Nuff said.

But hey, if Hogan is soooo great, why won’t anyone in the GOP vote for him for President?
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gounion wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:25 pm According to you Lindsey Graham is a good Senator. ‘Nuff said.

But hey, if Hogan is soooo great, why won’t anyone in the GOP vote for him for President?
He isn't running this time around so of course nobody is going to vote for him.

If he and AOC were the nominees you would vote for AOC
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:09 pm He isn't running this time around so of course nobody is going to vote for him.

If he and AOC were the nominees you would vote for AOC
Nobody was going to vote for him. Hell, you want DeSantis.

He’s an anti-Trumper, so you’d never support Hogan either. You’d call him a RINO.
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ProfX wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:08 am She is the only announced candidate in the 2024 Democratic primary. Joe Biden has "said" he will run again, but has not officially filed yet; doesn't have to I think for a few months.

On the issues, she's awesome. There's very little I disagree with her on. Some of her remarks on health and vaccination she says have been taken out of context. I agree with her position of slavery reparations - don't know how that will "sell" to the public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles

Olav Hammer locates A Course in Miracles in the tradition of channeled works from those of Madam Blavatsky through to the works of Rudolf Steiner[15] and notes the close parallels between Christian Science and the teachings of the Course.[25] Hammer called it "gnosticizing beliefs".[26] In "'Knowledge is Truth': A Course in Miracles as Neo-Gnostic Scripture" in Gnosis: Journal of Gnostic Studies, Simon J. Joseph outlines the relationship between the Course and Gnostic thinking.[19] Daren Kemp also considers ACIM to be neo-Gnostic and agrees with Hammer that it is a channeled text.[16] The course has been viewed as a way which "integrates a psychological world view with a universal spiritual perspective" and linked to transpersonal psychology.

[snip][end]

I think it's a great message, that we should love one another, been promoted by philosophers, poets, artists, and mystics ... I guess one doesn't have to read a channeled work to arrive at that conclusion.

At the end of the day, a POTUS needs to be effective, able to work with Congress, and should have some political experience. If the primary is between her and Biden, I'm still ridin' with Biden. We'll see if anyone else gets in. I think anyone who wants to be able to ... unlike the RNC in 2020, the DNC should have a fair and open process.

I hope she continues her excellent advocacy on many issues, including Native sovereignty.
Something to consider, Biden would be 86 at the end of a 2nd term.

https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/1 ... n-97640219
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He's a real piece of work he's not winning CA.

In California speech that draws protests, DeSantis stokes fight over pandemic

SIMI VALLEY, Calif. - As he moves toward entering the 2024 presidential race, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis made a pilgrimage to the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library on Sunday, where the Republican accused leaders in blue states such as California of being "lockdown politicians" and charged that the nation's coronavirus crisis created "a great test in governing philosophies."

Speaking to a sold-out audience of more than 1,300 people, DeSantis touted how Florida has led the nation in net migration - even though that is a trend set into motion long before he became governor.

https://www.chron.com/news/article/in-c ... 821628.php
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:09 pm He isn't running this time around so of course nobody is going to vote for him.

If he and AOC were the nominees you would vote for AOC
Fucking A right. There is nothing Republican/conservative that is intelligent in terms of policy. But again AOC has NEVER put forth any legislation that can be defined as actual socialism. But do keep bleating it as though it is a penetrating analysis.
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