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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:39 pm No, that's a real trans person. They often DO look like that.

And the gal my Grandpa married after my mom's mother died had quite the mustache.

Again, though, you make my point about you think it's either/or. Tell me, Glenn, which bathroom should this person go to?

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You have been shown wrong
You have had a hissy fit :x
You have lied about my position
And now you are searching the internet for photos
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:55 pm You have been shown wrong
You have had a hissy fit :x
You have lied about my position
And now you are searching the internet for photos
Here let me hand you a bigger shovel
No I'm not. Answer me Glenn, if you've got the stones.

What bathroom should this person use?
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:16 pm No I'm not. Answer me Glenn, if you've got the stones.

What bathroom should this person use?
You are beyond ridiculous. As I have stated many times I do not care about what bathroom trans people go to.
I was only concerned back when women of my mothers generation was out and about.

Knowing most of them would be very scared if they saw an obvious trans, which most are in the ladies room.

Somewhere along the line you became confused believing I am concerned to which bathroom trans people use.

BTW I am guessing that you now have the stones to start answering questions as opposed to avoiding them.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:17 pm You are beyond ridiculous. As I have stated many times I do not care about what bathroom trans people go to.
I was only concerned back when women of my mothers generation was out and about.

Knowing most of them would be very scared if they saw an obvious trans, which most are in the ladies room.

Somewhere along the line you became confused believing I am concerned to which bathroom trans people use.

BTW I am guessing that you now have the stones to start answering questions as opposed to avoiding them.
Why are you refusing to answer a simple question? Which bathroom should that person use? It's not a hard question.

And you've always been concerned. For years you said trans women had to use men's bathrooms, no matter what, because it freaked out old ladies, and their rights to be comfortable was more important than trans rights.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:18 pm Why are you refusing to answer a simple question? Which bathroom should that person use? It's not a hard question.

And you've always been concerned. For years you said trans women had to use men's bathrooms, no matter what, because it freaked out old ladies, and their rights to be comfortable was more important than trans rights.
Again and I am surprised a man who can read and comprehend a 130 page legal document in about an hour has such a hard time comprehending what I said.

I do not care which bathroom that orcany other person uses.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:21 pm Again and I am surprised a man who can read and comprehend a 130 page legal document in about an hour has such a hard time comprehending what I said.
Look, you're arguing for YOUR limitations, not mine.
I do not care which bathroom that orcany other person uses.
You sure are gutless.

The person in the picture is that of Micheal Smith, an out trans actor who plays an out trans character on the hit TV series Lone Star 9-1-1. On the show, you would never believe he was a trans person if they didn't make it part of the show. They also have a gay male couple and a Muslim woman on the show, so this is NOT a show that conservative would EVER want to watch.

And yes, you're against trans rights. We see it every day from you.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:21 pm Again and I am surprised a man who can read and comprehend a 130 page legal document in about an hour has such a hard time comprehending what I said.

I do not care which bathroom that orcany other person uses.
You can't even comprehend or write in simple English.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:47 pm A journey of 1000 miles begins with the first footsteps.
Fact is people who support democratic socialism are in fact supporting socialism.

In the Democratic Socialist website the first few words are proclaiming themselves to be the largest Socialist political organization in the USA.
They go on to brag about Bernie and AOC.
Now and I am paraphrasing they go on to say that corporations should be ran democratically by the people.
So you tell me how is that any different than the government owning the means of production.
We have people here who support almost every aspect of socialism but they say they are opposed to the government owning the means.
The stated policy of the democratic socialist party is saying government ownership just using different phrasing.
You don’t get to decide definitions. When you do you are lying. The base definition of socialism by those who developed the theory is government ownership of the means of production.

When you claim that the Nordic model or other forms that revolve around strengthened social safety nets are socialism YOU ARE LYING. That it makes you feel superior in some sort of twisted “I told you so” manner is irrelevant. No politician who has stated they are socialist, there are what, two, has submitted nor will submit any legislation calling for nationalization of industry for consideration.

The actual theory is corporations should be run by the workers.

Yes, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. We are far down the path of fascism as described by Mussolini which is the merger of corporation and government. Lobbying, ALEC aka legislative capture, untold millions of dark money political contributions and regulatory capture have done this. So, I guess utilizing your reasoning we can safely say that you are a fascist.

Why do you support fascism?
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Nice post, Bird. But since this is Glenn's "hate transgender" thread, I'm going to post this link from the ACLU, Four Myths of Trans Athletes Debunked.

And those myths are:

FACT: Including trans athletes will benefit everyone.
MYTH: The participation of trans athletes hurts cis women.

FACT: Trans athletes do not have an unfair advantage in sports.
MYTH: Trans athletes’ physiological characteristics provide an unfair advantage over cis athletes.

FACT: Trans girls are girls.
MYTH: Sex is binary, apparent at birth, and identifiable through singular biological characteristics.

FACT: Trans people belong on the same teams as other students.
MYTH: Trans students need separate teams.

Complete explanations at the links.

You know, Glenn doesn't get it. He doesn't understand transgenderism at all. To be honest, I don't either, but I have an open mind and I'm learning.

Glenn really thinks all that happens is that a make athlete who isn't that good at his sport, just wears a wig and a dress, calls himself transgender and then cleans up against weaker girls. Of course, our media including Hollywood, perpetuates this falsehood. I remember a movie from 2006 called She's the Man where a pretty young cisgender girl cuts her hair and pretends to be a boy so she can play soccer when the girls team is disbanded. Of course, she's not trans, she's a hot girl under the baggy clothes, and she falls in love with one of the boys... Oh, anyone could write this script...

As an aside, there was another movie that I enjoyed from the eighties, called Just One of the Guys, with a similar plot, only without sports involved. However, in looking the movie up, I note that the theatrical poster showed the girl in a locker room with guys, using two football helmets to cover her breasts. Note: if you watched the movie, she didn't need football helmets to cover up...

I do believe, if memory serves, both movies required the female to flash a huge crowd to prove they were, indeed, female, and the homophobic movie guys were spared the scary thought that it was a guy that they were falling in love with. But they are cute and fun comedies. Actually, Just One of the Guys did have some fun writing and was quite witty.

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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:53 pm Nice post, Bird. But since this is Glenn's "hate transgender" thread, I'm going to post this link from the ACLU, Four Myths of Trans Athletes Debunked.

And those myths are:

FACT: Including trans athletes will benefit everyone.
MYTH: The participation of trans athletes hurts cis women.

FACT: Trans athletes do not have an unfair advantage in sports.
MYTH: Trans athletes’ physiological characteristics provide an unfair advantage over cis athletes.

FACT: Trans girls are girls.
MYTH: Sex is binary, apparent at birth, and identifiable through singular biological characteristics.

FACT: Trans people belong on the same teams as other students.
MYTH: Trans students need separate teams.

Complete explanations at the links.

You know, Glenn doesn't get it. He doesn't understand transgenderism at all. To be honest, I don't either, but I have an open mind and I'm learning.

Glenn really thinks all that happens is that a make athlete who isn't that good at his sport, just wears a wig and a dress, calls himself transgender and then cleans up against weaker girls. Of course, our media including Hollywood, perpetuates this falsehood. I remember a movie from 2006 called She's the Man where a pretty young cisgender girl cuts her hair and pretends to be a boy so she can play soccer when the girls team is disbanded. Of course, she's not trans, she's a hot girl under the baggy clothes, and she falls in love with one of the boys... Oh, anyone could write this script...

As an aside, there was another movie that I enjoyed from the eighties, called Just One of the Guys, with a similar plot, only without sports involved. However, in looking the movie up, I note that the theatrical poster showed the girl in a locker room with guys, using two football helmets to cover her breasts. Note: if you watched the movie, she didn't need football helmets to cover up...

I do believe, if memory serves, both movies required the female to flash a huge crowd to prove they were, indeed, female, and the homophobic movie guys were spared the scary thought that it was a guy that they were falling in love with. But they are cute and fun comedies. Actually, Just One of the Guys did have some fun writing and was quite witty.

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There you go with the hate again. I bet when you were a kid you must have thrown a you hate me temper tantrum everytime you didn't get your way. Because you thrown one here multiple times a day.

No I do not hate trans people. Yes it is possible to disagree with a person's position and not hate them.

In fact on the trans issue we are on pretty much on the same page. With a couple of minor exceptions. One being sports, which common sense tell us a person born male in most cases will have a biological advantage over a person born female. Another would be I believe it is wrong for any person to march in a parade stroking a cock, be it real or fake.

Yet somehow you believe that is tantamount to hatred. I figure you are either exposing your own beliefs and hatred towards your fellow man. Or and more likely you are reverting to the temper tantrums you threw as child in order to get your way.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:22 pm There you go with the hate again. I bet when you were a kid you must have thrown a you hate me temper tantrum everytime you didn't get your way. Because you thrown one here multiple times a day.

No I do not hate trans people. Yes it is possible to disagree with a person's position and not hate them.

In fact on the trans issue we are on pretty much on the same page. With a couple of minor exceptions. One being sports, which common sense tell us a person born male in most cases will have a biological advantage over a person born female. Another would be I believe it is wrong for any person to march in a parade stroking a cock, be it real or fake.

Yet somehow you believe that is tantamount to hatred. I figure you are either exposing your own beliefs and hatred towards your fellow man. Or and more likely you are reverting to the temper tantrums you threw as child in order to get your way.
No we are NOT on the "same page". I posted four myths about trans athletes. You, of course, can't actually rebut them, so you keep going.

What is wrong with drag story times at libraries and why does your side want to ban them?
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:17 am No we are NOT on the "same page". I posted four myths about trans athletes. You, of course, can't actually rebut them, so you keep going.

What is wrong with drag story times at libraries and why does your side want to ban them?
The ACLU myths which I had seen before is a great example of figures don't lie but liars figure.
To get a true picture they would need to study M2F trans athletes. It is so odd how you folks have to park your common sense at the door when it comes to your political agenda.
As for drag story time if the person is dressed appropriately there is no problem. There are many layers to that onion. First as long as it is being billed as drag story time and not required or not a school event I agree let the parents decide.
I wouldn't want it to be one of those school deals where one or two kids parents wouldn't allow them to attend and they had to go and sit by themselves.
Lastly I really don't think many libraries have a story time drag or not. If they do I doubt they get more than 5 or 6 kids.
How many kids want to spend Saturday at the library as opposed to playing outside
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:11 am The ACLU myths which I had seen before is a great example of figures don't lie but liars figure.
To get a true picture they would need to study M2F trans athletes. It is so odd how you folks have to park your common sense at the door when it comes to your political agenda.
As for drag story time if the person is dressed appropriately there is no problem. There are many layers to that onion. First as long as it is being billed as drag story time and not required or not a school event I agree let the parents decide.
I wouldn't want it to be one of those school deals where one or two kids parents wouldn't allow them to attend and they had to go and sit by themselves.
Lastly I really don't think many libraries have a story time drag or not. If they do I doubt they get more than 5 or 6 kids.
How many kids want to spend Saturday at the library as opposed to playing outside
You can’t actually respond to the points, as always.

And I loved NOTHING more than going to the library, Glenn. I spent many Saturdays there. And I wasn’t the only one.

But your party is trying to outlaw drag everywhere they can.

I guess you’d NEVER let your grandson see Tootsie, right?

This is just more of your buying into the right’s LGBTQ wars - you can’t demonize gays anymore, so you demonize trans people. And drag shows aren’t about trans at all.
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:16 am You can’t actually respond to the points, as always.

And I loved NOTHING more than going to the library, Glenn. I spent many Saturdays there. And I wasn’t the only one.

But your party is trying to outlaw drag everywhere they can.

I guess you’d NEVER let your grandson see Tootsie, right?

This is just more of your buying into the right’s LGBTQ wars - you can’t demonize gays anymore, so you demonize trans people. And drag shows aren’t about trans at all.
There you go comparing Tootsie to a person marching down main street stroking a cock
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:18 am There you go comparing Tootsie to a person marching down main street stroking a cock
Again, you are using a red herring that there were no children present at. And if there were women in the parade with see-through bras and thongs, you wouldn’t be coving your grandson’s eyes.

Again, your side is trying to ban ALL drag. AND YOU ARE SUPPORTING THAT. You are the one pretending that a person in drag will scar your poor little grandson for life. The idea that it be acknowledged that there are gay and trans people in this world shouldn’t happen to him until he’s out of school is just stupid and shows what you REALLY think of gay and trans people.
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I think many people would agree it's probably not appropriate to stroke a dildo in a parade where children are present.

However, it's still a problem even if the person is not trans, or gay, or a drag performer. Anybody doing it would be inappropriate - no?

Thus, it's a red herring as to whether it is right to ban all drag performers, or drag queen story hours, where they aren't doing such things.
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:50 am Again, you are using a red herring that there were no children present at. And if there were women in the parade with see-through bras and thongs, you wouldn’t be coving your grandson’s eyes.

Again, your side is trying to ban ALL drag. AND YOU ARE SUPPORTING THAT. You are the one pretending that a person in drag will scar your poor little grandson for life. The idea that it be acknowledged that there are gay and trans people in this world shouldn’t happen to him until he’s out of school is just stupid and shows what you REALLY think of gay and trans people.

And there you go making things up again. Using the old I know what you really think
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:00 am And there you go making things up again. Using the old I know what you really think
I know what you say. And we see what you support.
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