House to vote to abolish IRS and institute Fair Tax

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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:19 pm Not my party.
Yes, it IS your party. You're the one voting for them, and you're the one that bragged that your party was going to kick the ass of the Democrats. You bought them, they're yours. Quit trying to cowardly run away from what they're doing.
Having a vote that you know goes no where happens frequently in the House. Your party did it all the time. So I guess one is no more reasonable or intelligent than the other.
So, since you are defending this, this IS what you voted for and what you wanted. They aren't surprising you, they aren't doing anything you are going to criticize in any way, shape or form.

Got it.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:08 am Yes, it IS your party. You're the one voting for them, and you're the one that bragged that your party was going to kick the ass of the Democrats. You bought them, they're yours. Quit trying to cowardly run away from what they're doing.

So, since you are defending this, this IS what you voted for and what you wanted. They aren't surprising you, they aren't doing anything you are going to criticize in any way, shape or form.

Got it.
So show me where I defended “this”.

In fact, I stated I haven’t heard anything I could support and also predicted it wouldn’t pass the house. If that’s what you call a defense or support you have a serious problem with English.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:56 am So show me where I defended “this”.

In fact, I stated I haven’t heard anything I could support and also predicted it wouldn’t pass the house. If that’s what you call a defense or support you have a serious problem with English.
Again, THIS is what YOU wanted. You wanted the GOP to run everything, and bragged how your side was going to kick our ass in November. Remember?

So, if you're NOT for it, then stand AGAINST it.

SAY this isn't what you voted for, say that this is NOT the reasonable and intelligent governance you wanted.

Or explain why it's okay with you. Take a stand, you gutless worm.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:05 am Again, THIS is what YOU wanted. You wanted the GOP to run everything, and bragged how your side was going to kick our ass in November. Remember?

So, if you're NOT for it, then stand AGAINST it.

SAY this isn't what you voted for, say that this is NOT the reasonable and intelligent governance you wanted.

Or explain why it's okay with you. Take a stand, you gutless worm.
You are claiming I support something I have never supported. So show me where I ever expressed any support for the Fair Tax whatsoever. You claim you are all about the facts. Show me the post. Or admit you are just making shit up.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:14 am You are claiming I support something I have never supported. So show me where I ever expressed any support for the Fair Tax whatsoever. You claim you are all about the facts. Show me the post. Or admit you are just making shit up.
They campaigned on this. You wanted the GOP to win. These are the consequences of your laughing at us and saying the American people didn’t want what we are selling.

Now you’re saying you don’t want what the GOP is selling? You’re certainly defending it. You aren’t saying it’s not reasonable and intelligent governance.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:17 am They campaigned on this. You wanted the GOP to win. These are the consequences of your laughing at us and saying the American people didn’t want what we are selling.

Now you’re saying you don’t want what the GOP is selling? You’re certainly defending it. You aren’t saying it’s not reasonable and intelligent governance.
Nope. That dog don’t hunt. You said I supported this. So show me the post. Otherwise you are deliberately lying. You are putting words in my mouth. An “honest” poster would not do that. A man who says he only deals with facts wouldn’t do that.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:22 am Nope. That dog don’t hunt. You said I supported this. So show me the post. Otherwise you are deliberately lying. You are putting words in my mouth. An “honest” poster would not do that. A man who says he only deals with facts wouldn’t do that.
No, you’re the one that wanted these people to rule. Now, do you say that bringing up a vote on this bill is reasonable and intelligent governance or not?

Another question of mine you’re too scared to answer you gutless worm.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:48 am No, you’re the one that wanted these people to rule. Now, do you say that bringing up a vote on this bill is reasonable and intelligent governance or not?

Another question of mine you’re too scared to answer you gutless worm.
So show me where I said such a vote was reasonable and intelligent.

Show me that and I’ll answer your question.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:11 am So show me where I said such a vote was reasonable and intelligent.

Show me that and I’ll answer your question.
It’s not a statement, idiot. It’s a question I’ve asked over and over. Do you believe pushing such a bill to vote, without going through the normal channels of putting a bill into Committee to be debated and only after the bill is voted by the Committee to go to the full House, is reasonable and intelligent governance? Yes or no?
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:16 am It’s not a statement, idiot. It’s a question I’ve asked over and over. Do you believe pushing such a bill to vote, without going through the normal channels of putting a bill into Committee to be debated and only after the bill is voted by the Committee to go to the full House, is reasonable and intelligent governance? Yes or no?
I would recommend regular order. What do you think?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:38 am I would recommend regular order. What do you think?
So is what your folks are doing reasonable and intelligent? Yes or no?
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:15 am So is what your folks are doing reasonable and intelligent? Yes or no?
I would prefer regular order. If however this exercise that will not pass checks the box and let’s the House move on to things that need to get done, I have no big problem with it anymore than I did last year or the year before when the House took similar votes.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:49 am I would prefer regular order. If however this exercise that will not pass checks the box and let’s the House move on to things that need to get done, I have no big problem with it anymore than I did last year or the year before when the House took similar votes.
There were no similar votes.

So is what your folks are doing reasonable and intelligent? Yes or no?
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:17 am They campaigned on this. You wanted the GOP to win. These are the consequences of your laughing at us and saying the American people didn’t want what we are selling.

Now you’re saying you don’t want what the GOP is selling? You’re certainly defending it. You aren’t saying it’s not reasonable and intelligent governance.

So you support 100pct of what the democratic party and individual democrats campaign on.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:53 am There were no similar votes.

So is what your folks are doing reasonable and intelligent? Yes or no?
There were numerous bills passed in the House that did not go thru committee. There were numerous bills in the house that does in the Senate. Always are.

But to answer your question, most people want government to work. Most folks want government that is reasonable and intelligent. That does not mean that everything done by either party meets that test.

I have already told you numerous times what I think of the Fair Tax. Would I propose such a bill? No. Would I support such a bill? No. Said as much.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:16 pm There were numerous bills passed in the House that did not go thru committee. There were numerous bills in the house that does in the Senate. Always are.

But to answer your question, most people want government to work. Most folks want government that is reasonable and intelligent. That does not mean that everything done by either party meets that test.

I have already told you numerous times what I think of the Fair Tax. Would I propose such a bill? No. Would I support such a bill? No. Said as much.
Do you think bringing such a bill before the House denotes reasonable and intelligent governance? Yes or no?

It's so funny that you tuck your tail between your legs and run away from the simple question.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:31 pm Do you think bringing such a bill before the House denotes reasonable and intelligent governance? Yes or no?

It's so funny that you tuck your tail between your legs and run away from the simple question.
I have already told you what I think of the proposal. It’s not something I can support. I haven’t read the bill so I don’t have an opinion as to whether it is either reasonable or intelligent. I don’t think a flat tax is workable in this economy.

So that’s the best answer you are going to get from me on whether this specific bill that I have not read is either reasonable or intelligent.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:32 pm I have already told you what I think of the proposal. It’s not something I can support. I haven’t read the bill so I don’t have an opinion as to whether it is either reasonable or intelligent. I don’t think a flat tax is workable in this economy.

So that’s the best answer you are going to get from me on whether this specific bill that I have not read is either reasonable or intelligent.
You continue to run away, and I’m not surprised. You say you want reasonable and intelligent governance, and we can all see that’s NOT what we’re getting from the people YOU want in charge.

They’re a bunch of idiots, but they are YOUR idiots.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:53 pm You continue to run away, and I’m not surprised. You say you want reasonable and intelligent governance, and we can all see that’s NOT what we’re getting from the people YOU want in charge.

They’re a bunch of idiots, but they are YOUR idiots.
If all I wanted was unreasonable and unintelligent I could just as easily vote for your guys. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:10 pm If all I wanted was unreasonable and unintelligent I could just as easily vote for your guys. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Not true. We're the adults in the room.

But nice try at deflection, since you run away from the question, you gutless worm.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:10 pm If all I wanted was unreasonable and unintelligent I could just as easily vote for your guys. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mean, you can pretend to laugh. That childish, nervous type laugh. But you openly vote for seditionists and traitors. You vote for Trumpers and you lie about what you claim you stand for. You say you're against government overreach but you want a government that wants to obliterate human rights. You openly vote for morons who are nothing but performance artists who are not there to govern. They are just there to obstruct and waste time and money. You vote for the likes of Matt Gaetz, Scott Perry, Kevin McCarthy, Jim Jordan, Marge Green, Lauren Boebert, Andy Biggs, Jim Banks, etc., most of who are being investigated for serious crimes. So you can laugh and make stupid comments like this but it just shows how much of a laughing stock clown you are.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:29 pm Not true. We're the adults in the room.

But nice try at deflection, since you run away from the question, you gutless worm.
Yeah. Your the adults in the room alright. :lol: :lol:
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:56 pm Yeah. Your the adults in the room alright. :lol: :lol:
Yah that's right - Trump's party is the party of the adults. :roll: I mean, what an idiot.

And for a guy who likes to correct other people's grammar, it's *you're

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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:56 pm Yeah. Your the adults in the room alright. :lol: :lol:
We’re all lucky Biden is President. We’re lucky that Trump and all the Putin lovers aren’t in charge of our foreign policy. They would have helped Putin invade Ukraine.

And let’s remember that the people YOU voted for want to cut off funding for Ukraine.

Do you support cutting all funding for Ukraine?

Oh, once again another question you’ll run away from
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:09 pm We’re all lucky Biden is President. We’re lucky that Trump and all the Putin lovers aren’t in charge of our foreign policy. They would have helped Putin invade Ukraine.

And let’s remember that the people YOU voted for want to cut off funding for Ukraine.

Do you support cutting all funding for Ukraine?

Oh, once again another question you’ll run away from
I know that Joe stated he can see the point of those who don't want to provide aid to Ukraine. But it'll be interesting to see if he provides you with an answer. Glenn is already buying into the GOP BS about money.

Both of these guys threw a huge fit when the US pulled out of Afghanistan. They both claimed America was abandoning its allies, especially Joe, who also called for investigations. Neither had a problem with the decades and trillions of dollars placed there.
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