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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:14 am No I’m admitting that you are lying when you say you have a 100% record on this thread.
100pct on NFL playoffs
Missed UM game but got all money back plus 500 on UGA

I have not been betting playoffs other than college however if I had been I would be uo well over 1000.
6 predictions 5 correct showing thar sports handicapping is not guessing
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:19 am 100pct on NFL playoffs
Missed UM game but got all money back plus 500 on UGA

I have not been betting playoffs other than college however if I had been I would be uo well over 1000.
6 predictions 5 correct showing thar sports handicapping is not guessing
You said on this thread. You also said on the thread that the KC game was a tossup. Then you said KC plus 7.5 points. That was incorrect.

So no, you don’t have a 100% record on this thread period.

But you’re not honest enough to admit it.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:21 am You said on this thread. You also said on the thread that the KC game was a tossup. Then you said KC plus 7.5 points. That was incorrect.

So no, you don’t have a 100% record on this thread period.

But you’re not honest enough to admit it.
I originally said that about KC until I saw highlights of the Buffalo game. Watching that lead me to believe KC would dominate the game because of Cincinnati O Lline problems.
Again it is not a guessing game it is analyzing the situation
5 wins one loss maybe 6 I didn't go back and count
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:30 am I originally said that about KC until I saw highlights of the Buffalo game. Watching that lead me to believe KC would dominate the game because of Cincinnati O Lline problems.
Again it is not a guessing game it is analyzing the situation
5 wins one loss maybe 6 I didn't go back and count
Oh, wait, what happened to 100%?

And you gave KC with seven and a half points. Did they win by eight? Yes or no?

And did you predict that a Bengals player would hit Mahomes out of bounds with eight seconds left giving KC a chip shot field goal to win?
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:32 am Oh, wait, what happened to 100%?

And you gave KC with seven and a half points. Did they win by eight? Yes or no?

And did you predict that a Bengals player would hit Mahomes out of bounds with eight seconds left giving KC a chip shot field goal to win?
The 7.5 is hiw many points you would have gotten had you bet a 2 team teaser.
My picks for the teaser was Philly plus 4.5 KC plus 7.5.

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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:35 am The 7.5 is hiw many points you would have gotten had you bet a 2 team teaser.
My picks for the teaser was Philly plus 4.5 KC plus 7.5.
Keep pretending you knew what you are talking about. You really think you are a football expert. You aren’t.

But it’s one of those mental illnesses of fandom is that every fan thinks they are smarter than the coaches, smarter than the players, smarter than the pundits. They think their viewpoint makes them superior to everyone else.

And they aren’t.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:37 am Keep pretending you knew what you are talking about. You really think you are a football expert. You aren’t.

But it’s one of those mental illnesses of fandom is that every fan thinks they are smarter than the coaches, smarter than the players, smarter than the pundits. They think their viewpoint makes them superior to everyone else.

And they aren’t.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:45 am In the last two seasons combined I've won over 21k betting primarily college football with an occasional pro bet
You prove my point.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:45 am You prove my point.
If your points you are wrong about sports handicapping then yes I have proven your pont
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:46 am If your points you are wrong about sports handicapping then yes I have proven your pont
No, my point is you think you're smarter than everyone else in sports.

You're just like those guys on the sports shows. They just conveniently forget all their wrong prognostications.

Just like in your mind you forget you were completely wrong about Michigan.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:49 am No, my point is you think you're smarter than everyone else in sports.

You're just like those guys on the sports shows. They just conveniently forget all their wrong prognostications.

Just like in your mind you forget you were completely wrong about Michigan.
Not anyone not even close to the profession handicappers.
Just above average for am amateur
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:52 am Not anyone not even close to the profession handicappers.
Just above average for am amateur
Professional handicappers also lose.

Saw several take the Bengals. And except for a few plays, it could well have been the Bengals. NO ONE knew that KC would win. Anyone who says they did are liars.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:01 am Professional handicappers also lose.

Saw several take the Bengals. And except for a few plays, it could well have been the Bengals. NO ONE knew that KC would win. Anyone who says they did are liars.
So you expect handicapping to be 100pct.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:15 am So you expect handicapping to be 100pct.
No the reality is that games are often decided on the bounce of the ball, or stupid penalties. That’s the ONLY reason the game didn’t go to overtime.

College teams are so mismatched because of the corrupt system that you bet on things like “will they win by 30 points or 40 points?” Too easy to manipulate. What if the team is up by 40, puts in the second team to save the starters, then wins by only 30?

You said the Chiefs would win by 7.5. You said the Bengals line was too weak. Well, interestingly, and several early sacks, the Bengals made some changes, and the line did pretty good after that.

I’ve watched more football this year than I have have, and I see that you can’t handicap a game. There was no way of knowing that the SF QB would get hit on the arm and couldn’t throw a ball anymore after that. If that one thing hadn’t happened, it would have been a much more competitive game.

I’ve seen these games on Sunday night when every one of the “experts” on the pre-game predicted one team to easily win, and that team lost.

I’m realistic. You’re the one that thinks of yourself as an expert. Yet, just like on this thread, you conveniently re-write history in your mind and forget every one of the wrong predictions.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:27 am No the reality is that games are often decided on the bounce of the ball, or stupid penalties. That’s the ONLY reason the game didn’t go to overtime.

College teams are so mismatched because of the corrupt system that you bet on things like “will they win by 30 points or 40 points?” Too easy to manipulate. What if the team is up by 40, puts in the second team to save the starters, then wins by only 30?

You said the Chiefs would win by 7.5. You said the Bengals line was too weak. Well, interestingly, and several early sacks, the Bengals made some changes, and the line did pretty good after that.

I’ve watched more football this year than I have have, and I see that you can’t handicap a game. There was no way of knowing that the SF QB would get hit on the arm and couldn’t throw a ball anymore after that. If that one thing hadn’t happened, it would have been a much more competitive game.

I’ve seen these games on Sunday night when every one of the “experts” on the pre-game predicted one team to easily win, and that team lost.

I’m realistic. You’re the one that thinks of yourself as an expert. Yet, just like on this thread, you conveniently re-write history in your mind and forget every one of the wrong predictions.

Yes it was my mistake I was speaking about my nfl playoff predictions. But I can plainly see how you would think I was speaking about the entire thread.
Where I was "only" 6 and 1 as opposed to 5 and 0.
Proving that you are 100pct correct that sports handicapping is nothing more than guessing no different than flipping a coin.
I mean only being correct 6 out of 7 times proves it.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:32 am Yes it was my mistake I was speaking about my nfl playoff predictions. But I can plainly see how you would think I was speaking about the entire thread.
Where I was "only" 6 and 1 as opposed to 5 and 0.
Proving that you are 100pct correct that sports handicapping is nothing more than guessing no different than flipping a coin.
I mean only being correct 6 out of 7 times proves it.
I would THINK that because I would quoting what you wrote.

Just like I just quote what you say but you call me a liar.

And you’re the one lying here - I never said sports handicapping was “no different than flipping a coin”.

Isn’t it interesting that you say I’m lying about what you said about trans people, but right now you’re lying about what I said about handicapping?

You’re the one lying all over this board.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:44 am I would THINK that because I would quoting what you wrote.

Just like I just quote what you say but you call me a liar.

And you’re the one lying here - I never said sports handicapping was “no different than flipping a coin”.

Isn’t it interesting that you say I’m lying about what you said about trans people, but right now you’re lying about what I said about handicapping?

You’re the one lying all over this board.
So now you are taking something obviously said figuratively as literal another standard practice of liberals.
Everything you said in this thread about sports handicapping demonstrates that you believe it is only guessing.
Then you caught me in the big lie. I said I was undefeated which I am in the NFL playoffs when in fact 1 did lose one of the 6 or 7 plays I listed here.
My fault 100pct I was thinking of and talking about the NFL playoffs not the entire thread. I should have been more specific.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:48 am So now you are taking something obviously said figuratively as literal another standard practice of liberals.
Everything you said in this thread about sports handicapping demonstrates that you believe it is only guessing.
Then you caught me in the big lie. I said I was undefeated which I am in the NFL playoffs when in fact 1 did lose one of the 6 or 7 plays I listed here.
My fault 100pct I was thinking of and talking about the NFL playoffs not the entire thread. I should have been more specific.
You remind me of a line in Animal House. “Hey, you fucked up! You trusted us!”

You can’t trust anything you say, because you’ll call us liars for quoting you.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:54 am You remind me of a line in Animal House. “Hey, you fucked up! You trusted us!”

You can’t trust anything you say, because you’ll call us liars for quoting you.
The reason I did that is because betting on CFB is a total different animal then betting on the NFL.
The same as betting basketball is different than betting baseball.
One thing you got wrong was your thought about what if the college coach puts in the back ups when the team is up by 30.
I learned from the late great Beano Cook that even though thet deny it college coaches are aware of the line. They are also aware that big boosters are big bettors. They are also aware that if the big booster loses a 10k bet, even though it is pocket change to them they are likely to not contribute 250k to the college.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:13 am The reason I did that is because betting on CFB is a total different animal then betting on the NFL.
The same as betting basketball is different than betting baseball.
One thing you got wrong was your thought about what if the college coach puts in the back ups when the team is up by 30.
I learned from the late great Beano Cook that even though thet deny it college coaches are aware of the line. They are also aware that big boosters are big bettors. They are also aware that if the big booster loses a 10k bet, even though it is pocket change to them they are likely to not contribute 250k to the college.
So it’s corrupt, and knowing what the line is will cause coaches to make different decisions. Thank you for making my point.

So why is it okay for coaches to shave points or run up the score in order to cover bets but not okay for players to do it?
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:20 am So it’s corrupt, and knowing what the line is will cause coaches to make different decisions. Thank you for making my point.

So why is it okay for coaches to shave points or run up the score in order to cover bets but not okay for players to do it?
I don't know about corrupt and no coaches are shaving points. In high school I was on the wrong end of those 49-0 games and do not like coaches who run up the score.
However it does exist and I am taking full advantage of it.
If Alabama is favored by 35 and I believe they will score 60. The question becomes can the other team score 25.
Which most of the time is not a chance
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:28 am I don't know about corrupt and no coaches are shaving points. In high school I was on the wrong end of those 49-0 games and do not like coaches who run up the score.
However it does exist and I am taking full advantage of it.
If Alabama is favored by 35 and I believe they will score 60. The question becomes can the other team score 25.
Which most of the time is not a chance
You just said that's what they do. When winning big, they watch the score and make adjustments accordingly.

That would be what could be called tampering.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:57 am You just said that's what they do. When winning big, they watch the score and make adjustments accordingly.

That would be what could be called tampering.
Not even close. Running up the score is poor sportsmanship. Not point shaving.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:16 pm Not even close. Running up the score is poor sportsmanship. Not point shaving.
When you’re doing it because you have an eye on what the betting line is, instead of what’s best for the team, that’s manipulation.
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Politicians can be really stupid. Like the Cincinnati mayor:
Cincinnati Mayor Aftab Pureval was served a steaming slice of humble pie Sunday night after the Kansas City Chiefs came out on top of the Cincinnati Bengals in the AFC Championship to punch their ticket to the Super Bowl.
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While a little trash talk can be all in good fun, many thought Pureval took his comments too far, and Chiefs players seized on those comments after the game.

In a proclamation issued from the mayor's office on Friday, Pureval referred to GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium as "Burrowhead" Stadium, called into question Mahomes's paternity, and took shots at the name "Kansas City," which frankly, was not entirely original if we're being honest.

"Whereas the Cincinnati Bengals are headed to 'Burrowhead' Stadium for their second-consecutive AFC Championship game," Pureval started his proclamation, adding, "Whereas Joseph Lee Burrow, who's 3-0 against Mahomes, has been asked by officials to take a paternity test confirming whether or not he's his father," and "Whereas Kansas City is named after its neighboring state, which is, you know, just kind of weird," Pureval named Jan. 29, 2023, as "They gotta play us" day.

The backlash to Pureval's proclamation was swift and came from Chiefs and Bengals fans alike.

A short time later, Pureval tweeted, "Bengals nation, Lol. I hear you. My competitive juices and love for cincy got the best of me. My bad. Staying hungry and humble."

Despite the slight walk back, the proclamation remained online, fueling the fire for the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday.

After the Chiefs' 23-20 win over the Bengals Sunday night, as players accepted the Lamar Hunt Trophy for the victory, named after the founder of the Chiefs, many players had words for Cincinnati's mayor, players and fan base.
Even Mahomes pointed out that Mahomes mentioned the Cincinnati Mayor coming after him. It's a rooking mistake, for sure, but then, not as bad a mistake as making a flagrant hit on a QB out of bounds that was a personal foul that turned a long-just-barely-in-the-kickers-range field goal into a chip shot.

The mayor needs to up his game, and do things like, if the Bengals win, the KC mayor has to come and eat some chili spags, and it the Chiefs win, he has to go and eat some KC BBQ. But NOOOOOO!

BTW, I know Glenn will check, and the mayor is a Dem. That's the difference between us, Glenn. You'd NEVER say such a thing about a Republican.
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