Sinema's decision to quit the Democratic Party jolts Arizona 2024 Senate race
While Sinema hasn't said whether she will run for re-election as an independent, the prospect of a three-way race could complicate Democrats' path to winning in two years.
If she caucuses with the patriotic party, we still have our majority plus one.
If Manchin flips, my rage will be something I might need medical help for.
She knows her name is worthless in the Democratic Party in Arizona and she knows if she runs for reelection republicans won't vote for her so she's hoping to reinvent herself as an independent in a hopes of drawing enough voters from both parties to win. If that's her strategy then she's as dumb as Herschel Walker.
Number6 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:18 pm
She knows her name is worthless in the Democratic Party in Arizona and she knows if she runs for reelection republicans won't vote for her so she's hoping to reinvent herself as an independent in a hopes of drawing enough voters from both parties to win. If that's her strategy then she's as dumb as Herschel Walker.
I'm pretty certain that's her strategy. She doesn't want to be primaried by a Dem.
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
Drak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:24 pm
I'm pretty certain that's her strategy. She doesn't want to be primaried by a Dem.
Well, by leaving the Democratic Party she's guaranteed that. Her name and reputation among Democrats in Arizona is crap so she won't have to face a primary challenge but would face both a republican and Democrat in the general election.
Number6 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:28 pm
Well, by leaving the Democratic Party she's guaranteed that. Her name and reputation among Democrats in Arizona is crap so she won't have to face a primary challenge but would face both a republican and Democrat in the general election.
Unfortunately this could likely hand that seat back to Republicans.
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Scooplet: a confidant of Kari Lake tells us she’s gotten calls to run for Senate against Sinema, but she recently told Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb that he should run for the seat instead
Conventional wisdom: advantage GOP in a 3-candidate AZ Sen race
carmenjonze wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:59 pm
It's already an R. seat with her stupid ass in it. :problem:
Perhaps, but Schumer is letting her keep her seat on various committees so if she "strays" too far Schumer could always threaten to remove her from one or more positions.
Since she will caucus with Dems, no immediate impact.
But, it could impact the next Senate election in AZ. She can't possibly win as an Independent, she's no Angus King or Bernie Sanders. But as was just said, she could act as a spoiler candidate to help throw the race to Rethugs.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln
Number6 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:10 pm
Perhaps, but Schumer is letting her keep her seat on various committees so if she "strays" too far Schumer could always threaten to remove her from one or more positions.
True, and a good idea.
What a diva, ong.
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Drak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:58 pm
Unfortunately this could likely hand that seat back to Republicans.
Marc Caputo
@MarcACaput ·
1h
Scooplet: a confidant of Kari Lake tells us she’s gotten calls to run for Senate against Sinema, but she recently told Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb that he should run for the seat instead
Conventional wisdom: advantage GOP in a 3-candidate AZ Sen race
Look, folks, I'm no fan of Sinema's, but we need to realize she's NOT evil incarnate, nor is she as bad as a Republican.
We have a few things to thank her for, one being the fact that she was key to the Respect for Marriage Act, and her work bringing the Mormon Church on board supporting the bill. Sinema grew up Mormon. And I've dug into it, and she was a major mover on the bill and did some excellent negotiating.
I've never been a fan of the perfect being the enemy of the good. What the bill SHOULD have done was simply made gay marriage the law of the land legislatively, but what the bill does is to force all states to recognize any marriage in any other states. So states that outlaw gay marriage could continue to do so, but they'd have to recognize marriages from other states.
bradman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:05 pm
Fuck them and we lose a very slim edge.
“We” already have a “slim edge,” with them.
You guys can sit around biting your nails with every vote and call it being pragmatic to liberal or whatever.
“We” can do better than these people, including in these fascist red and red-overrun purple states, which is what her own political career was SUPPOSED to prove in the first place.
She owes that career to the Dems and her D constituents but she’s beholden to that rightwing munny, hunny. Wonder what her constituents think of her jumping ship in the middle of a term.
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The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them. ~ Ida B. Wells ________________________________
carmenjonze wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:12 pm
“We” already have a “slim edge,” with them.
You guys can sit around biting your nails with every vote and call it being pragmatic to liberal or whatever.
“We” can do better than these people, including in these fascist red and red-overrun purple states, which is what her own political career was SUPPOSED to prove in the first place.
She owes that career to the Dems and her D constituents but she’s beholden to that rightwing munny, hunny. Wonder what her constituents think of her jumping ship in the middle of a term.
War makes strange bedfellows.
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. [Will Rogers]
carmenjonze wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:20 pm
Moderates are just cons.
This isn’t war, and no one can stop you from doing it yourself, but absolutely no one has to crawl into bed with cons.
Better metaphors, pls.
Dogs and fleas comes to mind.
Better metaphors?
Nobody's "crawling in bed with them". Wouldn't even make their bed. Now, if they want to help me tuck corners..........And that's all i have to say about that.
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. [Will Rogers]
gounion wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:37 pm
Look, folks, I'm no fan of Sinema's, but we need to realize she's NOT evil incarnate, nor is she as bad as a Republican.
We have a few things to thank her for, one being the fact that she was key to the Respect for Marriage Act, and her work bringing the Mormon Church on board supporting the bill. Sinema grew up Mormon. And I've dug into it, and she was a major mover on the bill and did some excellent negotiating.
I've never been a fan of the perfect being the enemy of the good. What the bill SHOULD have done was simply made gay marriage the law of the land legislatively, but what the bill does is to force all states to recognize any marriage in any other states. So states that outlaw gay marriage could continue to do so, but they'd have to recognize marriages from other states.
Which is still a big step forward.
Can you imagine if it was Incremental Prairie League, I mean it wouldnt be as good you know.
I still object to politicians who switch affiliations. It has happened here a few times, they'll switch parties. People vote for a candidate primarily based on their party affiliation. Not all, of course, but certainly a plurality. By changing, you're essentially telling those voters that they do not count. If you want to leave, fine, but resign to do so.
And yes, I've taken issue with those who've left to join the party I support.
