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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-pelo ... isco-home/


Story developing people involved on attacks like this need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Hopefully nobody deniens this attack the way they downplayed the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh or the attack on Zeldin. We cannot go back to the era of assassinations and assassination attempts we saw in the 60's and 70's.
Pundits need to tone down the rhetortic Democrats and Republicans are not the enemy they are painted as in talk media and the country is not in danger and our democracy is not going to end after the next election.
Finally I hope the attack was not politically motivated
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:25 am https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-pelo ... isco-home/


Story developing people involved on attacks like this need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Hopefully nobody denies this attack the way they downplayed the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh or the attack on Zeldin. We cannot go back to the era of assassinations and assassination attempts we saw in the 60's and 70's.
Pundits need to tone down the rhetortic Democrats and Republicans are not the enemy they are painted as in talk media and the country is not in danger and our democracy is not going to end after the next election.
Finally I hope the attack was not politically motivated
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:25 am the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh
Link, please.

5th request.
… or the attack on Zeldin.
Link, please.

2nd request.
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Glenn claims “the left” is responsible for some rando arrested regarding Kavanaugh. And Zeldin’s incident was some dude with a keychain. Glenn continuous to lie, and like Joe Memphis, he fabricates both sides bullshit while plugging his ears to justify the vile people he votes for. Same reason he downplays racism and hate crimes. Or claims he’s pro gay marriage but votes for bigot puritans in SC.

Meanwhile, he ignores all the death threats liberals receive on a daily basis. He ignores the army of conservatives that attacked the Capital on Jan 6 and attempted to overthrow the government. He ignores all the incidents of armed poll watchers threatening voters in Arizona. He ignores the armed militias who attacked people in Charlottesville, or the armed militias who planned on kidnapping and murdering the governor of Michigan. Instead he votes for Trumper candidates who push this stuff.


And of course, in his hypocritical fashion, the right won’t be responsible for what happened here if it’s discovered this is a MAGA clown, which seems likely. This perp attacked Pelosi’s husband with a hammer and was targeting their home.


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WASHINGTON (AP) — AP sources: Suspect who attacked Paul Pelosi, House speaker's husband, specifically targeted their home.
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1. Glenn, you're a nice guy but you're in over your head. For a start it's "invasion." The only "evasion" going on is the attempt by Americans to evade reality that drumpf has unhinged half this country's population, and now we have to spend more taxpayer money to secure families the way we do with the officials themselves.

2. It's the Internet, stupid.

3. It's going to get worse if we continue to allow shit like Musk deciding one day, well, why don't I just buy twitter and turn it into a personal propaganda machine.

4. Same as #2. It's worth repeating. It's the Internet, stupid. Or, to be exact, it's the misuse of the net to do the kind of rabble rousing that you'd get arrested for if you did it in the street. It's a positive feedback loop for unhinged discontented loonies who blame the government for everything wrong in their lives to stir up the kind of shit we'd expect to see in places like Somalia. The business-industrial complex has been full balls to the wall on stirring up shit in the US. All the alternatives available to us are grim ones. At a minimum, it's time for some serious security, or no one will want to govern this place.

5. 20 years ago, this was a pretty good country. It was actually starting to confront its history of exploitation and enslavement. Then it went down the shitter, and we all know why.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:11 am Link, please.

5th request.



Link, please.

2nd request.
Here is the link to Kavanaugh

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... ot-guilty/

And here is the link to Zeldin


https://www.npr.org/2022/07/21/11128660 ... -candidate
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Drak wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:24 am Glenn claims “the left” is responsible for some rando arrested regarding Kavanaugh. And Zeldin’s incident was some dude with a keychain. Glenn continuous to lie, and like Joe Memphis, he fabricates both sides bullshit while plugging his ears to justify the vile people he votes for. Same reason he downplays racism and hate crimes. Or claims he’s pro gay marriage but votes for bigot puritans in SC.

Meanwhile, he ignores all the death threats liberals receive on a daily basis. He ignores the army of conservatives that attacked the Capital on Jan 6 and attempted to overthrow the government. He ignores all the incidents of armed poll watchers threatening voters in Arizona. He ignores the armed militias who attacked people in Charlottesville, or the armed militias who planned on kidnapping and murdering the governor of Michigan. Instead he votes for Trumper candidates who push this stuff.


And of course, in his hypocritical fashion, the right won’t be responsible for what happened here if it’s discovered this is a MAGA clown, which seems likely. This perp attacked Pelosi’s husband with a hammer and was targeting their home.


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Links aren't going to save this country from itself.
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ZoWie wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:25 am 1. Glenn, you're a nice guy but you're in over your head. For a start it's "invasion." The only "evasion" going on is the attempt by Americans to evade reality that drumpf has unhinged half this country's population, and now we have to spend more taxpayer money to secure families the way we do with the officials themselves.

2. It's the Internet, stupid.

3. It's going to get worse if we continue to allow shit like Musk deciding one day, well, why don't I just buy twitter and turn it into a personal propaganda machine.

4. Same as #2. It's worth repeating. It's the Internet, stupid. Or, to be exact, it's the misuse of the net to do the kind of rabble rousing that you'd get arrested for if you did it in the street. It's a positive feedback loop for unhinged discontented loonies who blame the government for everything wrong in their lives to stir up the kind of shit we'd expect to see in places like Somalia. The business-industrial complex has been full balls to the wall on stirring up shit in the US. All the alternatives available to us are grim ones. At a minimum, it's time for some serious security, or no one will want to govern this place.

5. 20 years ago, this was a pretty good country. It was actually starting to confront its history of exploitation and enslavement. Then it went down the shitter, and we all know why.
Good call I spelled it like I say it oops

If I am ignoring the incidents which you claim then it is also true that progressives are ignoring incidents against Republicans
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Name me a comparable incident against Republicans since drumpf was president.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:28 am Here is the link to Kavanaugh

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... ot-guilty/
Don’t you ever read what you post?

This guy never went through with the attempt and called 9-11 in himself. :?
But as soon as Roske arrived, those same filings show, he seemed to make moves toward changing his plans, according to authorities. First he saw two men standing outside Kavanaugh’s home — both deputy U.S. marshals assigned to protect the justice and his family — which prompted Roske to turn and walk down the street, round a corner, and end up about 1 1/2 blocks away, according to local and federal officials.

During that time, he texted his sister and told her of his intentions, according to Montgomery County Police Chief Marcus Jones.

“She convinced him to call 911, which he did,” Jones said.

Some 33 minutes passed between Roske getting out of the cab and his calling 911, according to federal court filings and a copy of his 911 calls.
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ZoWie wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:30 am Links aren't going to save this country from itself.
Are they supposed to?
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ZoWie wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:37 am Name me a comparable incident against Republicans since drumpf was president.
It isn't a competition of Well you did it too or your side was worse.
Imo nearly all of these attacks are being motivated by weak minded people believing the BS coming from the side they support.

If a person really believed that one side or the other were going to kill them, their family and like minded people of course they would resort to violence to protect themselves and their country.
Likewise if a group of weak minded people really believe that Biden stole the election they would resort to violence to defend their country.
It is the hateful rhetoric coming from people with voices from both sides which is causing the problem.
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These type of attacks need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law regardless of the political leanings of either the victim or the attacker. Breaking and entering, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder. There is no excuse.

Throw his ass in jail.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:44 am Don’t you ever read what you post?

This guy never went through with the attempt and called 9-11 in himself. :?



:?
And there we go defending the assassination attempt.
BTW What crime has he been charged with. Had he not spotted law enforcement near Kavanaugh's home we have no.idea what he would have done.
We do know he so called turned himself in after he spotted law enforcement.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:45 am It isn't a competition of Well you did it too or your side was worse.
Imo nearly all of these attacks are being motivated by weak minded people believing the BS coming from the side they support.

If a person really believed that one side or the other were going to kill them, their family and like minded people of course they would resort to violence to protect themselves and their country.
Likewise if a group of weak minded people really believe that Biden stole the election they would resort to violence to defend their country.
It is the hateful rhetoric coming from people with voices from both sides which is causing the problem.
So then you admit you vote for weak minded people? Your party is claiming Biden stole the election. People who you vote for. So what do you call a sheep who votes for weak minded people?

And there is no both sides here.

You just couldn't create a topic about the Pelosi incident, you had to throw in a false equivalency again trying to claim both sides are engaged in the same behavior. Both sides are not.

You have politicians on YOUR side calling Liberals the enemy. You have politicians creating political ads that display them carrying guns and hunting down liberals. You have politicians attacking free and fair elections and radicalizing people into wanting to overthrow the government. Your guy, Ralph Norman, hangs around with Steve Bannon and claims the Biden administration is illegitimate and the government is being run by a cabal headed by Obama and Holder.

This is no BOTH sides here. You do this to justify the vile, deplorable people you support. You're just too much of a coward to admit it openly.

You have absolutely NO influence over the people on this board with the disinformation you peddle.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:25 am https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-pelo ... isco-home/


Story developing people involved on attacks like this need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Hopefully nobody deniens this attack the way they downplayed the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh or the attack on Zeldin. We cannot go back to the era of assassinations and assassination attempts we saw in the 60's and 70's.
Pundits need to tone down the rhetortic Democrats and Republicans are not the enemy they are painted as in talk media and the country is not in danger and our democracy is not going to end after the next election.
Finally I hope the attack was not politically motivated
Pundits? How about Donald Trump? He’s the one fomenting violence and insurrection.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:48 am And there we go defending the assassination attempt.
There wasn't an assassination attempt, nor would I defend one.

You're grasping at straws. Keep it up.
BTW What crime has he been charged with.
You mean what crime is he pleading "not guilty" to?
Had he not spotted law enforcement near Kavanaugh's home we have no.idea what he would have done.
We do know he so called turned himself in after he spotted law enforcement.
Ergo, no assassination attempt, and yes this is WHY high profile public servants should have this level of security; I say it often around here.nSo I'm not sure what your point is, except to try and use this incident to smear liberals.

There's also nothing in your article that talks about this person's politics or motivations. Did you notice it ends with some quotes by Eugene Vokokh of The Volokh Conspiracy? The Volokh Conspiracy is a longstanding right-libertarian publication that started out as a blog (I used to read it), which is now at Reason mag. At one point, it was at the Washington Post, where your article is from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Volokh_Conspiracy

What else you got?
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True that both sides have been guilty of stirring up marginal people to commit crimes that amount to treason. False that both sides are doing it now. You name me one single case in the last 10 years of the left, as you call it, using the Internet to inspire and/or plan acts of violence against the institutions that make us call ourselves civilized. One. I'm waiting.

It's simply false that the left is the only faction doing it. Yes, at one time the left did most of it. Patty Hearst and the SLA come to mind. That was 50 years ago. Now it's the loony anarcho-fascists on the lower right quadrant who cause 90% of the violence. They use the Internet, which is basically a tool available to anyone, as a means of rabble rousing that they didn't have before. That seems to be what's made the difference. Data analytics put drumpf in the White House in the first place, well OK, that's use of tools, except that ultimately the tools were used by foreign actors sympathetic to one side to subvert the country's election system. That's illegal, you know. Since then the tools have been used here, to create absolutely loony bad neighborhoods on the Internet where wannabe felons reinforce one another's violent urges. That's illegal too, you know.

Stop it.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:28 am And here is the link to Zeldin


https://www.npr.org/2022/07/21/11128660 ... -candidate
Where have you seen anyone "downplay" this attack, at RFL or elsewhere?

All I've seen is your desperation to attach these attacks to liberals, while even the most credible articles you can dig up do not mention these people's politics or their motivations.

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Intruder shouted 'where is Nancy?' in attack on US Speaker Pelosi's husband - reports
An intruder who attacked the husband of US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi was searching for the Democratic politician, reports say.

Paul Pelosi, 82, was taken to hospital after a break-in at their California home on Friday morning. He is expected to make a full recovery.

The suspect, who has not been named, is in custody.
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ZoWie wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:02 pm Intruder shouted 'where is Nancy?' in attack on US Speaker Pelosi's husband - reports



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63430150
Oh, ok so it is one of MAGA fascists.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:45 am It isn't a competition of Well you did it too or your side was worse.
Well, obviously it is for you.

Why else would you trot out the Kavanaugh and Zeldin stories in a thread about the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband?
Imo nearly all of these attacks are being motivated by weak minded people believing the BS coming from the side they support.
And you're certain of their motivations because...
If a person really believed that one side or the other were going to kill them, their family and like minded people of course they would resort to violence to protect themselves and their country.
Likewise if a group of weak minded people really believe that Biden stole the election they would resort to violence to defend their country.
It is the hateful rhetoric coming from people with voices from both sides which is causing the problem.
^all of this is pure projection and speculation. :?

You come from a community well-known for your vigilante violence, and it shows in statements like this.
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Were I a gambling man, I'd be putting down big bucks that this guy believed righty rhetoric or OD'd on the kind of subversion made public by the 1/6 investigation, or both, and decided to off the Speaker of the House.
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ZoWie wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:02 pm Intruder shouted 'where is Nancy?' in attack on US Speaker Pelosi's husband - reports



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63430150
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