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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:54 pm
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:56 pm Shut up, propagandized confederate.
Well, if being rude makes you feel better about yourself I am glad I was here to accommodate you.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:47 pm You have all the adjectives but never anything to dispute anything I say.
You use the term liberal message board very often and yes this is a liberal message board.
So do you come here for information or affirmation. Seems to me you are afraid to defend or even discuss your opinions or positions.
For example the Paul Pelosi deal. Wondering why this happened or why that happened is not making an excuse for the perp. Nor is it denying what happened. If it is then I guess the progressive who asked virtually the same thing must be doing what you accused me of.
It is on fact asking specific questions or thinking outloud. I don't know about you but, I always figured the speakers home was well guarded along with other leaders homes.
Personally I am amazed that my home is better protected than Pelosi's. ( I have a free roaming watch dog) Something that is an obvious mistake that our country needs to correct.
But, instead of engaging in conversation the way Prof X did you decided to play gotcha.
So yes you are correct this is a liberal message board. Any chance of you engaging in conversation occasionally
That's nice. But false. I always offer information to dispute what you say. You just don't like it or ignore it. Such as when I said this on this topic, that there is no equivalence when it comes to violence from the right toward the left. There is actual data out there that proves this. You just don't like the reality. Why did the Paul Pelosi incident happen? Because some RW nut job decided to attempt to assassinate Nancy Pelosi. The same type of person, of which there were thousands, who attacked the Capital attempting to murder Pelosi. Because RW media has programmed them to. I've stated all this. That's who is to blame. You're attempting to place the blame elsewhere or start up false equivalencies.

And no, you're not here for anything other that to parrot and spew BS things like Bidenflation, deflect or attempt to own the liberals, despite what information you're given and shown. You come to attack liberals then play the victim card when you're called out for what you're doing. Like calling liberals baby killers. The thing is, you have no influence on anyone with the things you say.
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Drak wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:04 pm That's nice. But false. I always offer information to dispute what you say. You just don't like it or ignore it. Such as when I said this on this topic, that there is no equivalence when it comes to violence from the right toward the left. There is actual data out there that proves this. You just don't like the reality. Why did the Paul Pelosi incident happen? Because some RW nut job decided to attempt to assassinate Nancy Pelosi. The same type of person, of which there were thousands, who attacked the Capital attempting to murder Pelosi. Because RW media has programmed them to. I've stated all this. That's who is to blame. You're attempting to place the blame elsewhere or start up false equivalencies.

And no, you're not here for anything other that to parrot and spew BS things like Bidenflation, deflect or attempt to own the liberals, despite what information you're given and shown. You come to attack liberals then play the victim card when you're called out for what you're doing. Like calling liberals baby killers. The thing is, you have no influence on anyone with the things you say.
You are 100pct correct the violence from the right has been worse than the violence from the left.

But, it isn't a contest. A man running for congress in NC did have his parents house shot at, Scalise was wounded, the guy was attacked before his debate.
There is violence on both sides and imo the very same thing is causing all the violence.

I am a big proponent of statistical process control. In fact a few years ago I did a personal SPC study on my own life and eliminated much negativity.

For those who don't know a SPC study looks at faults in a process, then looks at what is causing those faults and then eliminates that from the process.

It doesn't matter how few faults are in the process it is a comtinual process on the removal causes that never ends.

I believe that if our country were to do a true nonpartisan study of the violence we are seeing today in our election process. Then eliminate the faults we would see a marked decrease in violence.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:25 pm You are 100pct correct the violence from the right has been worse than the violence from the left.

But, it isn't a contest. A man running for congress in NC did have his parents house shot at, Scalise was wounded, the guy was attacked before his debate.
There is violence on both sides and imo the very same thing is causing all the violence.

I am a big proponent of statistical process control. In fact a few years ago I did a personal SPC study on my own life and eliminated much negativity.

For those who don't know a SPC study looks at faults in a process, then looks at what is causing those faults and then eliminates that from the process.

It doesn't matter how few faults are in the process it is a comtinual process on the removal causes that never ends.

I believe that if our country were to do a true nonpartisan study of the violence we are seeing today in our election process. Then eliminate the faults we would see a marked decrease in violence.
Do you think a fault in the GOP process is that Donald Trump controls the GOP?
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:27 pm Do you think a fault in the GOP process is that Donald Trump controls the GOP?
First I don't believe he controls the gop but he does have power and influence. Yes, it is definitely because of faults in the system. Faults that I cannot put my finger on but I believe it somehow goes to our primary system where a moderate has very little chance of winning.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:30 pm First I don't believe he controls the gop but he does have power and influence. Yes, it is definitely because of faults in the system. Faults that I cannot put my finger on but I believe it somehow goes to our primary system where a moderate has very little chance of winning.
He controls it completely. You're lying if you say he doesn't. If the GOP wins the House, he's the De Facto House Speaker, as he controls 4/5 of the House Reps completely. They'll vote how he tells them to vote.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:33 pm He controls it completely. You're lying if you say he doesn't. If the GOP wins the House, he's the De Facto House Speaker, as he controls 4/5 of the House Reps completely. They'll vote how he tells them to vote.
There you go if you disagree with me you are lying. Yes he has power and influence but there are far more elected Republicans using him than following him.
One thing for sure he has lasted way longer than anyone expected and our country will be way better off when he finally loses all his influence.
Personally I think it will ve like when figuratively overnight democratic office holders started being 100pct fir gay marriage. I hope he loses influence soon and it will be just as quick
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:38 pm There you go if you disagree with me you are lying. Yes he has power and influence but there are far more elected Republicans using him than following him.
One thing for sure he has lasted way longer than anyone expected and our country will be way better off when he finally loses all his influence.
Personally I think it will ve like when figuratively overnight democratic office holders started being 100pct fir gay marriage. I hope he loses influence soon and it will be just as quick
No, he's using THEM. They are scared shitless of them. They're even going to stop funding the Ukraine for him.

And you'll be supporting that.

And, Glenn, lots of people, including Republicans, changed their view of gay marriage in a very short amount of time. That's something that's reflected in the polling, and such things really never happened in our country before, such a large number of people changing their minds.

Mostly because the right kept telling people that it would destroy our nation, and when nothing really changed, they realized they'd been lied to.
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Drak wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:04 pm And no, you're not here for anything other that to parrot and spew BS things like Bidenflation, deflect or attempt to own the liberals, despite what information you're given and shown. You come to attack liberals then play the victim card when you're called out for what you're doing. Like calling liberals baby killers. The thing is, you have no influence on anyone with the things you say.
Well, he's not allowed to own Black people anymore, so theoretical ownership of liberals via 18-year old alt-right tikitorch and khakis trolling is going to have to suffice.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:38 pm figuratively overnight democratic office holders started being 100pct fir gay marriage.
:?

History rewrite. Your shitty party is still trying to cram everyone into heteros-only marriage and eliminate LGBTQ people from public life.

What you think of as "figuratively overnight" was the culmination of 50 years of gay rights advocacy and organizing.

Dirty little DeSantis fascists like you take every opportunity you can get to tear down and diminish any civil-rights based movement and the people who do the work, because it threatens your sense of supremacy and superiority.

That's good. It's designed to, and also to dismantle it from our laws and public policies, completely.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX7W0HswFhQ - Representative Ralph Norman Talks about Impeaching Biden
We all know Joe Biden is not running this country. There is a cabal of unelected elitists who are running this country. Probably Barack Obama is involved, probably Eric Holder, but who knows.
:? this whackjob is a federal-level lawmaker because ridiculous cons like you and David DePape are so easy to exploit.
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Details emerge in Paul Pelosi attack: A break-in, conversation, 911 call, then violence
...While chatting in the bedroom, DePape allegedly told Pelosi he couldn’t be stopped because he had other targets. DePape later allegedly told police his targets included a local professor, several prominent state and federal politicians and relatives of those officials......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiu5ZkEK3ro
....DePape allegedly explained to officers and medics at the scene what he tried to accomplish.

“I’m sick of the insane f------ level of lies coming out of Washington, D.C.,” DePape said. “I came here to have a little chat with his wife.”.....
The Trauma of American Politics
....While campaigning during the 2020 election cycle, POTUS candidate Marianne Williamson vocally acknowledged the potential for American politics to reinvent itself as a conduit for recovery, healing, and reparation. Williamson described this as "a politics of love"—the antithesis to the current politics of trauma. In return, she was bombarded with accusations of being unqualified for office and was haphazardly labeled by Americans as a fringe and bizarre contender to serve, simply because she had a vision that didn't involve what we're so accustomed: endless trauma and drama.

Although Williamson's vision for how American politics can morph from a largely pathogenic (disease-causing) entity into a salutogenic (promoting healing) entity was lofty, it's exactly what we need. It's true to a certain extent that we can't expect the same systems that caused destruction to repair the damage they have done. It's not ideal by any means, but perhaps a reengineering and reimagining of American politics could be one way we begin to unravel this complex knot we've tied ourselves up into. Could such a perspective shift allow us to start healing from the collective trauma we have experienced as a nation?
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:33 pm He controls it completely. You're lying if you say he doesn't. If the GOP wins the House, he's the De Facto House Speaker, as he controls 4/5 of the House Reps completely. They'll vote how he tells them to vote.
Congratulations you managed to switch what could have been a discussion about the political violence we are seeing today into a whatabouttrump deal
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:17 am Congratulations you managed to switch what could have been a discussion about the political violence we are seeing today into a whatabouttrump deal
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Hey, Simon Legree, nobody is letting a trolling right winger dictate the thread, or tell us how to post.

Not this thread or any other, either.

Basically every post you make brings down the quality of every thread you’re in.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:17 am Congratulations you managed to switch what could have been a discussion about the political violence we are seeing today into a whatabouttrump deal
Bullshit. You just want to act like everything's to blame on Dems and the GOP is doing nothing wrong.

You have MTG saying that Pelosi needs to be hanged, and you don't think that's a problem.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:47 pm No, he's using THEM. They are scared shitless of them. They're even going to stop funding the Ukraine for him.

And you'll be supporting that.

Another thing Kevin McCarthy lies about. He stated they will pull funding and no longer support Ukraine but then flipped on that when he got backlash from voters. But they are slowly moving the dial with the base which is becoming more and more pro Russia. They will absolutely pull away from Ukraine. Marge was just at a Trump rally a day ago trashing Ukraine again and saying so. RW media constantly says so. Trump constantly praises Putin, and says so. RW politicians constantly say this is the plan.
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See, Putin is not a communist. He maintains the trappings of a dictatorship of the proletariat, but everything he does and everyone he does it with proves that he's actually fronting an international coalition of the super-rich and those who would put the government in their service. In his coalition, which yes includes drumpf and much of the European far right, we see the classic fascist Corporate State of Mussolini, Peron, and Franco, throwing in a wee dash of Hitler's master race crap just to rile people up further.

The American left, all maybe half a million of them in a country of 300 million, doesn't get it. They're still fighting the battles of the 1930s. They actually won these years ago, but it created a center which has been propagandized out of power and is now taken for a left. There is no real left in the classic sense that retains any political clout whatsoever. Stuff that was radical in the 1930s, and which became the center for something like 80 years, is now radical again, even though it's the law of the land.
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ZoWie wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:30 am See, Putin is not a communist. He maintains the trappings of a dictatorship of the proletariat, but everything he does and everyone he does it with proves that he's actually fronting an international coalition of the super-rich and those who would put the government in their service. In his coalition, which yes includes drumpf and much of the European far right, we see the classic fascist Corporate State of Mussolini, Peron, and Franco, throwing in a wee dash of Hitler's master race crap just to rile people up further.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:33 am Yes, he’s an oligarch.
It must have really stung when the FIA responded to the demands of the teams and cancelled the Russian Grand Prix at his personal Winter Olympics resort in Sochi which made thousands of people homeless when he took it over and built it.

The oligarchs want that kind of thing to be the political center. One nation, irredeemable, with fake bread and corny circuses for all.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:38 pm There you go if you disagree with me you are lying. Yes he has power and influence but there are far more elected Republicans using him than following him.
One thing for sure he has lasted way longer than anyone expected and our country will be way better off when he finally loses all his influence.
WTF are you blabbering about? You vote for Trump backed candidates who push his agenda and want to see him back in office. You vote for people who deny the 2020 election and continuously attack democracy.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:17 am Congratulations you managed to switch what could have been a discussion about the political violence we are seeing today into a whatabouttrump deal
What are you blabbering about? Trump is the reason behind the political violence. He's the one who has radicalized millions of people into a cult, believing Liberals are the enemy, that the election was stolen, that he's the rightful president. He's the one who attempted a violent coup where his army attacked the Capital and hunted down Nancy Pelosi. Which is what this thread is about, another assassination attempt on Nancy Pelosi carried and over from J6. An ongoing and continuous threat. And Trump is the one who stole America's most classified secrets then makes threats to Merrick Garland that his base won't like it if they hold him accountable.
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Drak wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:39 pm What are you blabbering about? Trump is the reason behind the political violence. He's the one who has radicalized millions of people into a cult, believing Liberals are the enemy, that the election was stolen, that he's the rightful president. He's the one who attempted a violent coup where his army attacked the Capital and hunted down Nancy Pelosi. Which is what this thread is about, another assassination attempt on Nancy Pelosi carried and over from J6. An ongoing and continuous threat. And Trump is the one who stole America's most classified secrets then makes threats to Merrick Garland that his base won't like it if they hold him accountable.
So the attacks on Republicans and people thought to be republican is trumps fault.

The guy who shot Scalise was a berniebro
The guy who traveled 2000 miles to assassinate kavanaugh was a liberal
The guy who threw the punch at the NH guy was also a liberal
We don't know who fired the shots into the NC candidate's parents home. But, I suspect he wasn't a republican.
The guy who ran over the young man with his car because he thought he was a conservative was a liberal.
Yet, somehow you think those attacks are Trump's fault
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ZoWie wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:38 am It must have really stung when the FIA responded to the demands of the teams and cancelled the Russian Grand Prix at his personal Winter Olympics resort in Sochi which made thousands of people homeless when he took it over and built it.

The oligarchs want that kind of thing to be the political center. One nation, irredeemable, with fake bread and corny circuses for all.
I remember that about Sochi really well. That was also the year after Russia's "gay propaganda" law, upon which these dumb conservative fascists have modeled their dirty "Don't say gay" laws.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:09 pm ... attacks on Republicans ...
You're not under attack, you're perps.
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