Labor/Economics

[ZoWie]

Rewriting history is as American as apple pie.

The only defense for it is that everyone else does it, and that brings up everyone's traditional parental admonition: "If all the other kids jumped off cliffs, would you do it too?"

[JoeMemphis]

[bold] Now there's the rub, eh.

Seems to me what's being said is, somethings will not be taught.

Besides shop history was about the only other class i had interest in. Having graduated in 76 i remember a similar problem. Mr. Myron was a new teacher for a WWII history class. it was supposed to be half war history and half the different world economies that lead to the war. He was doing fine right up till the teaching of the final solution. Where as the retired teach glossed quickly over it, Mr. Myron did not. He added the truth about the Holocaust. He didn't pull punches and for the first time in any high school in this area we were able to witness the graphics of it all. The truth. It's that kind of truth that lit a fire under my ass and gave me a life long love of history. But that's another story. Anyway, when the kids started taking that truth back home all hell broke loose. "Somebody" decided the Holocaust was just to terrible to teach children. And given the U.S. history involvement in the "Voyage of the Damned," "some," out of guilt, did not want it taught at all. Wouldn't want the golden image of the U.S. saving the civilized world tarnished now would we. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

And here we are again. Same kind of problem, different decade.

As another poster mentioned, what are children are being taught about the black experience is not the whole truth. And that's a shame. If that isn't bad enough, "some" would love nothing more than to cancel lgbtq all together. They want to erase history. Truth.

It's time to tell the whole truth about the Alamo.

I don’t have an issue telling the whole truth Brad. It can and should be done objectively.

[gounion]

I don’t have an issue telling the whole truth Brad. It can and should be done objectively.

Then why do you support the censorship throughout the entire school system in Florida by the Governor?

[bradman]

I don’t have an issue telling the whole truth Brad. It can and should be done objectively.

chuckle. Objectively. Ya, good luck with all that.

[gounion]

chuckle. Objectively. Ya, good luck with all that.

To Joe, 'objectively' means that ONE PARENT objecting to teaching of certain history means that it's censored for everyone.

[Glennfs]

To Joe, 'objectively' means that ONE PARENT objecting to teaching of certain history means that it's censored for everyone.

It depends on who is writing the books and who is teaching the course.
If it were a person like CJ then it would be as fill of hatred and bigotry as if it were written by a klansman.
I an also sure you wouldn't want an evangelical Trumper teaching a class on human relationships.

[gounion]

It depends on who is writing the books and who is teaching the course.
If it were a person like CJ then it would be as fill of hatred and bigotry as if it were written by a klansman.
I an also sure you wouldn't want an evangelical Trumper teaching a class on human relationships.

Arguing for censorship. One parent can censor books for all children.

Go ahead argue for it.

[Motor City]

Employee seriously Injured in workplace explosion

"The exterior walls of the building had actually exploded and sent debris outward. You can see around, you can see debris that appears to ... has been on the inside, that was actually blown outside," Sgt. Steve DeWitt of the Greenville Department of Public Safety said from the plant site in video footage aired by WOOD-TV and tweeted by reporter Amanda Porter just after midnight.

"At this time, all employees have been accounted for. We do have a report that one employee did receive fairly serious injuries and was transported by ... EMS to a Grand Rapids area hospital," DeWitt said. "I don't have any more updates than that. I was told burn injuries."

Emergency dispatch was alerted at 9:46 p.m. Friday, Brian Blomstrom, interim director of the Greenville Department of Public Safety, confirmed to the Free Press early Saturday. He said the fires were brought under control within four hours and all emergency units were finished within six hours. The site had been cleared by 7 a.m. Saturday, Blomstrom said......

Greenville DPS: 1 severely hurt after Dicastal manufacturing plant explosion

Shanna Nummer captured video of Friday night's explosion, from 21 miles away, on her security camera.

[ZoWie]

How about government malfeasance blowing up most of Beirut's harbor?

(Aka, "How many years did the ammonium nitrate sit there, next to a fireworks cache, while they argued about whose it was?")

[JoeMemphis]

chuckle. Objectively. Ya, good luck with all that.

It was done in my HS. So it’s not impossible. I would hope teachers would be capable of objectivity. If not, then maybe we should be talking seriously of privatizing education and letting parents truly decide who and what gets taught to their children.

[gounion]

It was done in my HS. So it’s not impossible. I would hope teachers would be capable of objectivity. If not, then maybe we should be talking seriously of privatizing education and letting parents truly decide who and what gets taught to their children.

Well, they did a rotten job for you - you are a man who embraces ignorance.

Do you call THIS ‘objective’? Florida textbooks removing the fact that Rosa Parks was bad: https://local12.com/news/nation-world/r ... ol-lessons

Reviewers are paying particular attention to anything considered to be critical race theory, which is the central target of the law. High schools are no longer permitted to offer an AP African American studies course.

Studies Weekly, which is used in 45,000 schools across the country as per its website, changed a passage in a first-grade textbook for Florida students.

The initial lesson created for the state textbook reviews reads, "The law said African Americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down.”

In an early updated version, this was changed to say, "She was told to move to a different seat because of the color of her skin.”

A second and final revision submitted removes any mention of race, and instead reads, “She was told to move to a different seat. She did not. She did what she believed was right."

You call THAT ‘objective’? Oh, right, you won’t reply, because you’re too gutless, and you DO know your limitations, you just can’t debate at the adult table. Stay on the kiddie card table.

[Libertas]

I wonder if cons can learn from Luke


https://youtu.be/Sp85lB_L3NA

https://youtu.be/uEqucQNLIko

He is Australian, a comedian and economist. And 563 times smarter than any con.

[Glennfs]

I wonder if cons can learn from Luke


https://youtu.be/Sp85lB_L3NA

https://youtu.be/uEqucQNLIko

He is Australian, a comedian and economist. And 563 times smarter than any con.

Typical liberals get their global warming information from teenager's with learning disabilities and their economic information from comedians

[gounion]

Typical liberals get their global warming information from teenager's with learning disabilities and their economic information from comedians

And conservatives get their information from Donald Trump.

BTW, our information comes from scientists. Which, of course, you don't believe in.

[bird]

Typical liberals get their global warming information from teenager's with learning disabilities and their economic information from comedians

That is funny as hell. Stupid, but funny as hell.

Your economic info comes from where?

Re: climate change is that a hoax?

[bird]

It was done in my HS. So it’s not impossible. I would hope teachers would be capable of objectivity. If not, then maybe we should be talking seriously of privatizing education and letting parents truly decide who and what gets taught to their children.

See: Dover Bd. of Ed.

[gounion]

Joe, you're being stupid. First, if parents want to have their child privately educated, then they are welcome to do so. As a proud conservative, I'm sure you wouldn't want government money be used to subsidize it, right?

And how would you feel if anti-USA Madrassas were paid for by tax dollars?

You guys never think anything through.

[Glennfs]

That is funny as hell. Stupid, but funny as hell.

Your economic info comes from where?

Re: climate change is that a hoax?

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-yea ... edictions/

50 years of failed climate predictions

[gounion]

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-yea ... edictions/

50 years of failed climate predictions

Then why do you believe all the predictions by the right?

[Drak]

Hey I know, let's be a bigot against people on the Spectrum! They have no relevance and should just shut up!

Pretty ignorant to make a comment that Asperger's impairs Greta Thunberg with a learning disability. Who said she has a learning disability? Being on the spectrum can affect learning but it depends. It's not classified as a learning disability, though. What a complete ignoramous. Some of the greatest minds in history were on the Spectrum. Also laughable considering the author of that comment claims to have actual learning disabilities. I guess by his own words, he's irrelevant.

People with Asperger's syndrome will not usually have a learning disability, however they may experience challenges such as specific learning difficulties, anxiety or other conditions.

https://www.mencap.org.uk/learning-disa ... s-syndrome

Is Autism a Learning Disability?
Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is not a learning disability, but it can affect learning — in part because autism can affect language skills, both when listening and speaking.

The term “learning disability” is an umbrella term encompassing a number of different problems with learning — most often in reading, writing, math, and problem solving. Learning disabilities cause people to struggle when making connections between different pieces of incoming information, and when working to comprehend and organize that information, according to Understood.org. Autism and learning disabilities can occur together, but they are distinct from one another. They can also be exclusive — that is, you can have one without the other.

https://www.additudemag.com/autism-lear ... -symptoms/

Is Asperger’s a Learning Disability?
Asperger’s syndrome is not a learning disability but people with Asperger’s may face other challenges that impact their life, such as anxiety....

https://ldnetwork.org/blog/is-aspergers ... isability/

[ProfX]

I stand by this prediction. Climate is getting worse and worse and is creating more problems, and we are leaving a far worse world for our children and grandchildren to live in, something we should be embarrassed by. I'm not a doomer. The world will survive, probably even the human race, but with a worse quality of life. Something not to cheer over.

I have one more: I don't know when fossil fuels run out, but they are finite, and we will run out of them eventually. Some who are into the geology here say we're already running out of the cheap and easy stuff to obtain, so we're already on a downward curve.

Finally, I enjoy listening to Greta, but I also would listen to climate scientists, more than a neoliberal economic policy think tank who is cherry picking various articles going back to the 60s and 70s. Yeah, some people back then thought we were headed for an ice age. Paul Ehrlich said a "Population Bomb" was about to go off. They were wrong. We've learned a lot more since then, including that the oil companies might have known about all this even before the climate scientists.

[gounion]

Glenn doesn't understand that our science and technology has advanced light years in the last few decades. Glenn complains that doctors used to say Thalidomide was fine, but it wasn't. Yes, that's true. But again, medical science if far ahead of what it was then. I mean, we have the genome decoded. And computer modeling is something they didn't even have in the seventies.

It's all an excuse so that Glenn can ignore what he doesn't want to hear.

[ZoWie]

I let this stupid comment about teenagers with learning disabilities go by the first time because, considering the source, it seemed typical.

It's actually something of a slur though.

1. Asperger's is not a learning disorder. It's a mild ASD. And what if she did have one? It's simply not relevant.

2. Thunberg is not a teenager. She was when she started, but then so are most athletes, and we make heroes out of them. So what?

3. The idea that "liberals" all think the same thing is ludicrous. They're the most diverse bunch going. You can barely get them to agree on anything. This might be a better country if you could, but then they might just turn into Republicans, who seem to love forced consensus.

4. After the last four years in Southern California, I think we have a "yes" on the climate question. We're seeing a very typical case of what happens when more energy, in this case greenhouse warming, is put into a probabilistic system. Extremes become normal. The consequences are seldom pleasant.

5. Indeed there is evidence that the oil companies had done their own research, found the greenhouse effect to be real, and suppressed the results.

I hate slurs.

[bird]

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-yea ... edictions/

50 years of failed climate predictions

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world ... mperatures

The majority of upward change has occurred within the last 50 years.

[gounion]

I let this stupid comment about teenagers with learning disabilities go by the first time because, considering the source, it seemed typical.

It's actually something of a slur though.

1. Asperger's is not a learning disorder. It's a mild ASD. And what if she did have one? It's simply not relevant.

2. Thunberg is not a teenager. She was when she started, but then so are most athletes, and we make heroes out of them. So what?

3. The idea that "liberals" all think the same thing is ludicrous. They're the most diverse bunch going. You can barely get them to agree on anything. This might be a better country if you could, but then they might just turn into Republicans, who seem to love forced consensus.

4. After the last four years in Southern California, I think we have a "yes" on the climate question. We're seeing a very typical case of what happens when more energy, in this case greenhouse warming, is put into a probabilistic system. Extremes become normal. The consequences are seldom pleasant.

5. Indeed there is evidence that the oil companies had done their own research, found the greenhouse effect to be real, and suppressed the results.

I hate slurs.

Glenn learned his slurs from Donald Trump.