gounion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:16 pm
In 2003, at a book expo, Bill O'Reily and Al Franken appeared, hawking books that they were releasing, and they appeared on stage together. On the video of it,
available here, BillO demands Al to shut up - and Al tells BillO "You can't shut me up, Bill. This isn't your show. We've taken it and taken it and we're not going to take it any more".
This affected me profoundly. And I'm with Franken - this is what conservatives on these message boards WANT - for liberals to be meek and mild and always be nice - because conservatives have no interest in being nice. It's a knife fight (figuratively of course) to them - and if it's a knife fight they want, I'm all in. They demand we play fair, because they have absolutely no intention of playing fair.
I remember that. I am with you but obviously I have been this way for years.
For instance I am guilty of getting DIY advice from someone here, for me to then directly say to them or indirectly that I think they are cooperating with mass killers and are therefore part of the fascist movement, doesn't seem right, so I have tried to avoid it as much as I can. It is hypocritical of me to take their advice then attack them. So I have not asked for any in a while for that reason.
As to the rest of the cons, or the admitted cons, or the real cons, they dont exist to me anymore. I read what you say to them, what CJ and others say but I rarely read what the con said, not anymore. It will almost always be incorrect or a lie.
For years I made over the top comments for two reasons:
1. they were true, I knew what was coming...I feared that if someone like rump ever got power, we would be fucked and I based this on personal experience in real life.
2. Most people were not paying attention it seemed. Including my friends, some of them. They defended me because I am their friend but they would confide in me that they thought i was going too far...But I WASNT! And no, not talking about anyone here, I have a lot of friends IRL and on another much bigger board.
I sigh in your general direction.