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Posse Comitatus applies to federal troops.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:06 am The order issued Thursday by Texas Military Department officials to the headquarters overseeing Operation Lone Star reveals that the National Guard will soon deploy 10 M113 armored personnel carrier vehicles to the border.

According to the order, around 50 soldiers will be trained to operate the vehicles, and state officials will identify 10 positions to station them along the border.

The Texas Military Department said in a written statement Friday that in addition to the 10 armored vehicles, the Texas National Guard is increasing “aircraft flights and security efforts” on the border.
Contrary to what DeSantis and Abbott have sometimes argued, National Guard are under both state and federal control.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/11/17/us- ... tarization

The United States government should immediately cease all operational and financial support to the Texas government’s Operation Lone Star, Human Rights Watch said today.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced on November 15, 2022, his intention to use the US and Texas constitutions to give himself authority to increase border militarization in response to recent migration. The announcement included disparaging and alarmist language about migrants and asylum seekers, echoing the terminology of white nationalists who have carried out mass shootings in Texas and elsewhere. The governor’s office, and many of the agencies, counties, and sheriffs involved, regularly receive federal funds through a variety of programs, many of which predate Operation Lonestar.

US Border Patrol officials on November 15, 2022, also requested that the Texas legislature change the code of criminal procedure to enforce Texas state laws beyond ports of entry, a move that could increase the federal government’s role in the abusive program. Under Operation Lone Star, thousands of immigrants have been arrested and prosecuted under enhanced charges for misdemeanor trespassing.

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Under the expansion announced by Abbott, Texas will add to the more than 10,000 Texas National Guard soldiers and Texas Department of Public Safety officers already deployed to the border to arrest, jail, and refer people to federal immigration authorities for deportation. He also said he would deploy gunboats, build walls in multiple counties, and enter into agreements with “foreign powers.”

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Abbott doesn't have that authority.
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The National Guard is part of the US military, with both Federal and State control. It's implemented at the state level, as the successor to the state militias. It can be Federalized in extreme situations and placed under command of the regular military or even the executive branch, seeing as the president is also the C in C. The governor of Texas cannot legally command the Guard as his own personal militia to circumvent Federal laws. He can try, but the confrontation will be a disaster. Think early Civil Rights and the Federalization of the Guard (or threat to do same) to prevent its use to enforce segregation laws. The historical consequences of this decision will be debated for generations to come, but the legal precedent is clear.

Frankly, I am still of the opinion that the next time four guys in a double-wide decide they are the Lone Star Republic and ask the rest of the state to secede from the US and let them run Texas ("A whole nutter country") we should take them up on that. I'll be sorry to see Austin and Alpine go, they're nice places, and of course Houston is the dystopian version of LA and so I understand it, but that's life.
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“The Posse Comitatus Act Explained”


“ Members of the National Guard are rarely covered by the Posse Comitatus Act because they usually report to their state or territory’s governor. That means they are free to participate in law enforcement if doing so is consistent with state law. However, when Guard personnel are called into federal service, or “federalized,” they become part of the federal armed forces, which means they are bound by the Posse Comitatus Act until they are returned to state control.”

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:48 pm
“The Posse Comitatus Act Explained”


“ Members of the National Guard are rarely covered by the Posse Comitatus Act because they usually report to their state or territory’s governor. That means they are free to participate in law enforcement if doing so is consistent with state law. However, when Guard personnel are called into federal service, or “federalized,” they become part of the federal armed forces, which means they are bound by the Posse Comitatus Act until they are returned to state control.”

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained
This quote contradicts the point you are desperate to make. :?
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Texas national guardsmen say their mission to secure the border is a waste of time and resources
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/10/politics ... index.html

Since Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott deployed thousands of personnel to the US-Mexico border, the operation has been slammed as overtly political and a waste of resources by Democratic lawmakers and even some of the National Guard members participating in the mission.

Last March, Abbott, who’s up for reelection, launched “Operation Lone Star,” citing a crisis at the US southern border. The operation – which leaned on resources from Texas Department of Public Safety and Texas National Guard – has swelled to more than 10,000 service members.

The speed at which the operation launched and its scope has fueled frustrations internally and among veterans of the Guard. Multiple members of the Guard who are deployed as part of Operation Lone Star and spoke to CNN described long hours with little to do, poor planning, and a lack of mission – all of which, they say, are contributing to low morale among soldiers.

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Bottom line: the U.S. is not undergoing a military invasion from Mexico; there is no need for a military deployment.

Abbott can order State Police to the border if he wants - that's under his authority. (I hope it doesn't detract from their mission of dealing with crime in the rest of the state.) He should not be militarizing the border, though.
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yea dont militarize the borders or the police and need to demilitarize them as they are already treating people as if they robbed a liquor store and shot 3 people when they didnt do nothing at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDjG3y1Ijg
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Militarization puts authorities in a false state of being with all the duties and boundries every measure and all reasoning thrown off into falseness. Literally can't see past the concentrated power or rise above serving self, privilege seeking, or ego driven cruelty, destruction, and self enrichment.
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Police state.

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You're bullshit ICE. *problem*

ICE accidentally posts personal data of 6,252 immigrants online

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) accidentally posted a document online Monday containing personal information of more than 6,000 noncitizens seeking protection, the agency announced.

ICE said in a statement on Wednesday that the document was posted on its website for about five hours while the agency was performing routine updates and it took “swift action” to fix the mistake once it was notified. The Excel spreadsheet included 6,252 immigrants’ names, immigration information and other personally identifiable information.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... ts-online/
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ap215 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:38 pm You're bullshit ICE. *problem*

ICE accidentally posts personal data of 6,252 immigrants online

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) accidentally posted a document online Monday containing personal information of more than 6,000 noncitizens seeking protection, the agency announced.

ICE said in a statement on Wednesday that the document was posted on its website for about five hours while the agency was performing routine updates and it took “swift action” to fix the mistake once it was notified. The Excel spreadsheet included 6,252 immigrants’ names, immigration information and other personally identifiable information.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... ts-online/
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House Democrats call on Biden administration to renew Haitian migrant protections - The Hill
A group of 17 House Democrats is urging the Biden administration to renew a key immigration program protecting Haitians in the United States.

In a letter led by Democratic Reps. Cori Bush (Mo.), Ayanna Pressley (Mass.), and Mondaire Jones (N.Y.), the lawmakers asked Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas on Wednesday to extend and redesignate Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for Haiti.

Under TPS, foreign nationals of a country undergoing a man-made or natural disaster are allowed to live and work in the United States as long as their country’s designation is active.

“As Haitians face an unprecedented crisis in their home country, we strongly urge the Administration to extend the 2021 designation and redesignate Haiti for TPS, swiftly release the Federal Register Notice, and provide a minimum 180-day registration period for both current TPS holders and new beneficiaries under redesignation,” wrote the lawmakers.

The Democrats’ requests mirror those of a coalition of more than 400 pro-immigrant and Haitian advocacy groups, who last month called on the Biden administration to revamp TPS for the Caribbean nation.

TPS designations are granted by the Homeland Security secretary for up to 18 months, and cover citizens or nationals of the designated country who are in the United States up to a certain date.

Extensions prolong TPS benefits for existing beneficiaries, while redesignations set a new cutoff date for applying for TPS benefits, usually augmenting the number of people who are eligible for the program.
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After Documenting Abuses at ICE Berks Detention Center, PHR and Human Rights First Welcome Biden Administration Decision to Close Facility - Physicians for Human Rights
Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) and Human Rights First welcome reports that the Biden administration will end a contract with the Berks Detention Center on January 31, 2023, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility with a long-documented history of abuse and medical neglect. The decision comes after years of relentless advocacy and community organizing efforts supporting the families and women in the facility who bravely disclosed the abuses they endured.

PHR and Human Rights First today published a fact sheet about the Berks Detention Center, informed by a recent human rights monitoring visit to the facility in Fall 2022. The 27 women PHR and Human Rights First interviewed at Berks reported inhumane conditions in Department of Homeland Security (DHS) border custody, medical neglect, cruel and abusive treatment by DHS officers, and devastating impacts of continued family separation.

“The harrowing accounts we heard from women incarcerated at Berks highlight the abuse and depravity inherent in the United States immigration detention system,” said Brittney Bringuez, PHR Asylum Program Coordinator, who participated in the human rights monitoring visit to Berks. “The Biden administration must permanently close Berks Detention Center, release all individuals currently detained at Berks and elsewhere so they may safely pursue their asylum cases in the community, and not merely transfer them to other ICE facilities. We reiterate our long-standing calls for community-based alternatives to detention, including effective, community-based case management programs.”

At the time of the visit, Berks incarcerated women as young as 18 years old from Brazil, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Eritrea, Nicaragua, Peru, Russia, Turkey, and other countries. In their countries of origin, some of the women had suffered political persecution by government officials, gender-based violence, anti-LGBTQ attacks, and religious-based attacks.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/leake ... r-AA15co6u


Leaked documents indicate over 300 members of far-right paramilitary Oath Keepers may be current or former DHS employees, Project on Government Oversight reports
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