This is a new one on me.
If you live in LA, you've long since put GenaSys, Watch Duty, and Pulse Point on your phone. All of them alert you when LA has its weekly emergency. GenaSys tells which parts of LA have to evacuate, Watch Duty has posts regarding the status of major fires, and Pulse Point keeps track of what the fire department is doing.
Yesterday afternoon all three of these went bananas on a structure fire. Not a fast spreading terrain eating brush fire, but a structure fire. It was in solar panels on the roof of a 1000 by 1000 foot warehouse downtown. This is a vast expanse of solar panels, basically a solar farm on top of a building. The structure was a cold storage warehouse by a railroad, presumably for frozen food shipments coming up from the harbor in refrigerated containers. This is a big mo-fo of a building, and the fire was moving through the solar panels the way a vegetation fire moves along the ground. The roof was not damaged.
Turns out solar panels are poisonous if they catch fire. The smoke was pitch black, absolutely opaque, and very toxic. A shelter in place order was given for the adjacent neighborhood, and the whole city was alerted. The heat also ruptured an ammonia line to the refrigerant tank, yes we got tanked again, and fire fighters were told to get away prontito. Someone got the bright idea that if the fire was spreading horizontally like a brush fire, try dropping water on it. They pulled three choppers off a brush fire and did just that. It worked. Now we know how to stop solar farms from burning. (Now we know that they can burn.)
Today there are still warnings out for various things, but at least the sky isn't black any more.
Wanna bet the price of frozen food goes up? Trump will blame it on liberals.
LA warehouse catches fire
LA warehouse catches fire
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Re: LA solar farm catches fire
Sounds like a building caught fire that had solar panels on it. It's eventual that this will happen more often as solar panels become more common. Although the smoke and the smoke particles may be hazardous, the question I have is how dangerous would the panels actually be if they burned compared to the materials in a home or warehouse.
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I don't know what they made the roof out of. Looked like cement, though there might be wood holding it up.
It didn't burn. The building was evacuated because of the ammonia and simple common sense, but it's still standing. It looks a bit scorched and the solar panels are gone from half the roof and intact on the other half where LAFD stopped the fire. I was surprised because I didn't know that solar panels were flammable. The smoke was completely opaque and a very ominous black color, and you could see it from anywhere in LA, and it's a big city.
A bigger problem in my mind is that this was obviously a major facility for storing food fresh off the boats for distribution to retail stores. Its loading dock runs the full 1000 foot length. That's a lot of trucks that were picking up frozen food and going to retailers. Presumably, this warehouse is now an expensive monument to bad planning, and the price of food just went up again. For sure the refrigeration is down indefinitely.
Mostly the really distressing problem is how vulnerable our cities have become. Failure can come from many places along the production and distribution chain, and just about every damn industrial accident these days results in evacuations or other such events.
It didn't burn. The building was evacuated because of the ammonia and simple common sense, but it's still standing. It looks a bit scorched and the solar panels are gone from half the roof and intact on the other half where LAFD stopped the fire. I was surprised because I didn't know that solar panels were flammable. The smoke was completely opaque and a very ominous black color, and you could see it from anywhere in LA, and it's a big city.
A bigger problem in my mind is that this was obviously a major facility for storing food fresh off the boats for distribution to retail stores. Its loading dock runs the full 1000 foot length. That's a lot of trucks that were picking up frozen food and going to retailers. Presumably, this warehouse is now an expensive monument to bad planning, and the price of food just went up again. For sure the refrigeration is down indefinitely.
Mostly the really distressing problem is how vulnerable our cities have become. Failure can come from many places along the production and distribution chain, and just about every damn industrial accident these days results in evacuations or other such events.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
Re: LA solar farm catches fire
To many vulnerabilities in the supply chain. When companies save money by installing the basic and least effective/expensive safety systems for equipment, buildings, and people you get things like fires and catastrophic system failures. When that happens, the dominoes down the chain begin to fall.ZoWie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 1:09 pm I don't know what they made the roof out of. Looked like cement, though there might be wood holding it up.
It didn't burn. The building was evacuated because of the ammonia and simple common sense, but it's still standing. It looks a bit scorched and the solar panels are gone from half the roof and intact on the other half where LAFD stopped the fire. I was surprised because I didn't know that solar panels were flammable. The smoke was completely opaque and a very ominous black color, and you could see it from anywhere in LA, and it's a big city.
A bigger problem in my mind is that this was obviously a major facility for storing food fresh off the boats for distribution to retail stores. Its loading dock runs the full 1000 foot length. That's a lot of trucks that were picking up frozen food and going to retailers. Presumably, this warehouse is now an expensive monument to bad planning, and the price of food just went up again. For sure the refrigeration is down indefinitely.
Mostly the really distressing problem is how vulnerable our cities have become. Failure can come from many places along the production and distribution chain, and just about every damn industrial accident these days results in evacuations or other such events.
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Re: LA solar farm catches fire
You're right.
Definitely dominoes falling here. The situation is far worse than just another commercial fire. They just put some of the area on shelter in place again. The building has pockets of fire all through the refrigeration system. It's not just the solar panels here. We will undoubtedly need an extensive cleanup followed by a long expensive investigation. Guess who pays for that. I would also think that the supply chain took another hit as well. Guess who pays for that.
Meanwhile most of LA is still under a hazard warning for air pollution.
Definitely dominoes falling here. The situation is far worse than just another commercial fire. They just put some of the area on shelter in place again. The building has pockets of fire all through the refrigeration system. It's not just the solar panels here. We will undoubtedly need an extensive cleanup followed by a long expensive investigation. Guess who pays for that. I would also think that the supply chain took another hit as well. Guess who pays for that.
Meanwhile most of LA is still under a hazard warning for air pollution.
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Re: LA solar farm catches fire
Day three has dawned, and the fire department now reports that the fire has spread throughout the building's infrastructure. It's now a major open-ended operation like the brush fires are, and it's costing as much as one of those. Keep in mind that the building involved is the size of a large airplane hangar, about three stories high, and full of equipment that's leaking various things. The neighborhood is still under a shelter in place order, though they say they might be able to lift that in a few hours.
The interior is said to be full of smoke and poison gases of various types. This is costing the taxpayers of LA a bundle. I hope the city takes the company to court over this. Apparently, similar though less catastrophic failures have occurred in other facilities operated nationwide by this company.
I suspect that the supply chain for many food items has been disrupted, and you know who pays for that.
The interior is said to be full of smoke and poison gases of various types. This is costing the taxpayers of LA a bundle. I hope the city takes the company to court over this. Apparently, similar though less catastrophic failures have occurred in other facilities operated nationwide by this company.
I suspect that the supply chain for many food items has been disrupted, and you know who pays for that.
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Re: LA solar farm catches fire
I'm wondering whether the company was permitted to store or use the chemical/materials that created the poisonous atmosphere from the fire. Also, when was the last fire department inspection of the facility and what were the results of that inspection.
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Three days in and:
1. Still an active working fire with a good percentage of the LA Fire Department on it. Fire is now deeply entrenched in the building, which is the size of a small neighborhood in itself. All they can do is put water on it to keep the smoke down. Even so, the whole area is still under a smoke warning. You understand, of course, that the area in question is not all that much smaller than Rhode Island.
1a. Fighting this fire is costing the city of LA a fortune. Fortunes are something that this city does not have. I also wonder if the insurance company will ever pay off for the structural damage, given that the structure was apparently unsafe.
2. It seems clear that there will be plenty of work for lawyers. This company didn't build a warehouse, it built a public nuisance. There seems to be a lot of this sort of thing going on right now.
1. Still an active working fire with a good percentage of the LA Fire Department on it. Fire is now deeply entrenched in the building, which is the size of a small neighborhood in itself. All they can do is put water on it to keep the smoke down. Even so, the whole area is still under a smoke warning. You understand, of course, that the area in question is not all that much smaller than Rhode Island.
1a. Fighting this fire is costing the city of LA a fortune. Fortunes are something that this city does not have. I also wonder if the insurance company will ever pay off for the structural damage, given that the structure was apparently unsafe.
2. It seems clear that there will be plenty of work for lawyers. This company didn't build a warehouse, it built a public nuisance. There seems to be a lot of this sort of thing going on right now.
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Re: LA warehouse catches fire
No change. The building continues to burn. The fire got into the insulation on the huge walls of this megastructure and now the walls are falling down. The kilotons of food stored inside are beginning to go bad, so now yet another smell washes across central LA to go with the toxic smoke. Huge smoke plume is still visible all around, just like in the brush fires.
No ETA for extinguishing the fire so it's four days and counting. This is going to cost the city a fortune. Everyone's talking about suing the company, but it's a big multinational corporation and probably has another big building full of lawyers.
No ETA for extinguishing the fire so it's four days and counting. This is going to cost the city a fortune. Everyone's talking about suing the company, but it's a big multinational corporation and probably has another big building full of lawyers.
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Re: LA warehouse catches fire
Five days and counting. Situation unchanged. It's now a greater emergency fire like the big brush fires. Resources are coming in from other states, as far away as Texas. The people in the uniforms assure us that no poisonous gases are being released, but then the weather people continue the pollution alert for the whole region. We're advised to stay indoors and avoid breathing.
It's a regional event, but this time it's caused by one building.
It's a regional event, but this time it's caused by one building.
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Re: LA warehouse catches fire
Day six or seven, depending on whether the count starts at one or zero. Sometime Wednesday afternoon, it will be one week no matter how you count it.
More of the walls have collapsed. The roof is apparently still intact, but you (or the news crews) can see inside and note the 50-foot-high racks of rapidly putrefying no-longer-frozen food that fill the entire building. The city is still under some kind of advisory or other and thin white smoke continues to fill the air.
(Note that in LA there's some kind of advisory for something, usually pollution, surf, wind, or what the weather nerds call "excessive heat," pretty much every day anyway, and I suspect most people ignore them.)
Pretty much general agreement that the fire started in the solar panels, which a contractor was working on. Lots of work for lawyers coming up.
ETA on something resembling knockdown is 1-2 days.
Nooz has dug up dirt on other similar (if somewhat smaller) warehouse fires in other cities. Apparently, they're nasty stuff.
More of the walls have collapsed. The roof is apparently still intact, but you (or the news crews) can see inside and note the 50-foot-high racks of rapidly putrefying no-longer-frozen food that fill the entire building. The city is still under some kind of advisory or other and thin white smoke continues to fill the air.
(Note that in LA there's some kind of advisory for something, usually pollution, surf, wind, or what the weather nerds call "excessive heat," pretty much every day anyway, and I suspect most people ignore them.)
Pretty much general agreement that the fire started in the solar panels, which a contractor was working on. Lots of work for lawyers coming up.
ETA on something resembling knockdown is 1-2 days.
Nooz has dug up dirt on other similar (if somewhat smaller) warehouse fires in other cities. Apparently, they're nasty stuff.
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Re: LA warehouse catches fire
Nooz still leads with the status quo on the fire. They stand there in their N95 masks and recount the same situation as yesterday, the day before, the day before that, and the whole last week.
It's still not safe, let alone practical, to let fire fighters enter the building. The crews from Texas brought in some heavy-duty water cannons. They look a bit like the mortars used in the Civil War, all squat on the ground and spewing out unbelievable amounts of water. Millions of gallons per day. They've also contracted with Coulson Aviation and their Chinook twin-rotor choppers that can drop huge loads of water. They are doing just that, with spectacular results, but the fire burns on. Presumably, all this comes from the water we were saving for the inevitable result in November after it hasn't rained a drop in 8 months. LA reservoirs are already looking pretty empty, while their contents keep a warehouse the size of a large blimp hangar from going up like one of those Great Fires you read about in European history.
The smoke is still there, but now the TV cameras can see far enough in to show the racks where the megatons of spoiling food continue to stink up a radius of several miles.
It's still not safe, let alone practical, to let fire fighters enter the building. The crews from Texas brought in some heavy-duty water cannons. They look a bit like the mortars used in the Civil War, all squat on the ground and spewing out unbelievable amounts of water. Millions of gallons per day. They've also contracted with Coulson Aviation and their Chinook twin-rotor choppers that can drop huge loads of water. They are doing just that, with spectacular results, but the fire burns on. Presumably, all this comes from the water we were saving for the inevitable result in November after it hasn't rained a drop in 8 months. LA reservoirs are already looking pretty empty, while their contents keep a warehouse the size of a large blimp hangar from going up like one of those Great Fires you read about in European history.
The smoke is still there, but now the TV cameras can see far enough in to show the racks where the megatons of spoiling food continue to stink up a radius of several miles.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
Re: LA warehouse catches fire
Around 5 PM the LAFD command called a knockdown. They will spend days getting everything safe but the fire won't spread.
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The fire is pretty much out, but now the rotting kilotons of food (half a million pounds by one estimate) are stinking up the whole area and attracting thousands of rats. More rats than in the Manhattan subways, and that's a lot of rats. The stink is just plain nasty, so windows remain closed in summer, in a predominately Latin@ neighborhood where air conditioners are few and far between. Several charitable agencies have donated thousands of air purifiers, which residents can pick up for free. The city is sending in health inspectors. In other words, the fire is gone but the malady lingers on.
The glimpses of the inside of this place, now that the walls are gone, show why these fires are so hard to fight. There's no room for people, let alone hoses and ladders and all that. It's all storage shelves 50 feet high, closely spaced, and accessible only by an automated system using robotic cranes with fork lift tines to go under pallets. Fire fighters don't have a chance. Explains why these fires are so stubborn.
Maybe your city has one of these potential catastrophes lurking near its shipping routes too.
The glimpses of the inside of this place, now that the walls are gone, show why these fires are so hard to fight. There's no room for people, let alone hoses and ladders and all that. It's all storage shelves 50 feet high, closely spaced, and accessible only by an automated system using robotic cranes with fork lift tines to go under pallets. Fire fighters don't have a chance. Explains why these fires are so stubborn.
Maybe your city has one of these potential catastrophes lurking near its shipping routes too.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
Re: LA warehouse catches fire
Three weeks in and the rotting food still stinks. Breathing the air near the fire scene can make people vomit.
The people who live around there are starting to organize, no small feat for what is essentially an ethnic minority group composed of Mexican immigrants and their progeny. There's a big demonstration going on as close to the fire scene as civilians are allowed to get. Many of the protesters are wearing breathing masks.
The building, minus some of its walls and roof, has been turned back to its owner. The company has brought in resources to get the food out, but the building is not safe to enter for extended time periods. As the summer temperature increases, so does the stink, and the rats.
The recovery could take many weeks.
The people who live around there are starting to organize, no small feat for what is essentially an ethnic minority group composed of Mexican immigrants and their progeny. There's a big demonstration going on as close to the fire scene as civilians are allowed to get. Many of the protesters are wearing breathing masks.
The building, minus some of its walls and roof, has been turned back to its owner. The company has brought in resources to get the food out, but the building is not safe to enter for extended time periods. As the summer temperature increases, so does the stink, and the rats.
The recovery could take many weeks.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
Re: LA warehouse catches fire
Status quo after another week passes. A mobile health clinic has been set up in the neighborhood, and it's busy. Charities are also helping pay for the evacuation of people who for whatever reason face serious health problems if they stay.
It's that time of year when the air stagnates and LA becomes a pressure cooker, so the central part of the city is pretty unhealthy on a good day in a good year with no fires. One can only imagine what this heavily Latin@ area is like this year.
The city and the company that owns the building remain heavily lawyered up, and they are exchanging volleys of legal documents. Given that other lawyers are still arguing in court regarding the destruction of the Palisades a year and a half ago, one would be safe to imagine that this legal dialog will continue for years.
It's that time of year when the air stagnates and LA becomes a pressure cooker, so the central part of the city is pretty unhealthy on a good day in a good year with no fires. One can only imagine what this heavily Latin@ area is like this year.
The city and the company that owns the building remain heavily lawyered up, and they are exchanging volleys of legal documents. Given that other lawyers are still arguing in court regarding the destruction of the Palisades a year and a half ago, one would be safe to imagine that this legal dialog will continue for years.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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The mayor of LA came and gave a speech to a packed hall in the area. It was not well received.
People are really worked up. The stink gets worse as a typically hot and humid El Nino summer sets in. Money is being pried loose to house the worst-affected people in other places until the area near the fire gets cleaned up. The schedule for this cleanup is now months at the best and years at the worst. Thousands of air purifiers, masks, and food baskets are being distributed. TV nooz shows fire trucks still working around the building. The official list of fire department assets which have worked the incident at one time or another is pretty much the full muster of the entire LA Fire Department, plus many mutual aid agencies.
Blame shifting is becoming epic. The company blames the contractor that installed the solar panels. The contractor blames their subcontractor which was doing electrical maintenance on these panels. The city blames the company for not storing refrigeration gases more safely. Everyone blames the city for granting a permit for the warehouse in the first place. Everyone's lawyering up.
Developing...
People are really worked up. The stink gets worse as a typically hot and humid El Nino summer sets in. Money is being pried loose to house the worst-affected people in other places until the area near the fire gets cleaned up. The schedule for this cleanup is now months at the best and years at the worst. Thousands of air purifiers, masks, and food baskets are being distributed. TV nooz shows fire trucks still working around the building. The official list of fire department assets which have worked the incident at one time or another is pretty much the full muster of the entire LA Fire Department, plus many mutual aid agencies.
Blame shifting is becoming epic. The company blames the contractor that installed the solar panels. The contractor blames their subcontractor which was doing electrical maintenance on these panels. The city blames the company for not storing refrigeration gases more safely. Everyone blames the city for granting a permit for the warehouse in the first place. Everyone's lawyering up.
Developing...
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Re: LA warehouse catches fire
This isn't going to turn out well for the residents of the area. The company will sue the contractor and a decision on that will take years.ZoWie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2026 12:35 pm The mayor of LA came and gave a speech to a packed hall in the area. It was not well received.
People are really worked up. The stink gets worse as a typically hot and humid El Nino summer sets in. Money is being pried loose to house the worst-affected people in other places until the area near the fire gets cleaned up. The schedule for this cleanup is now months at the best and years at the worst. Thousands of air purifiers, masks, and food baskets are being distributed. TV nooz shows fire trucks still working around the building. The official list of fire department assets which have worked the incident at one time or another is pretty much the full muster of the entire LA Fire Department, plus many mutual aid agencies.
Blame shifting is becoming epic. The company blames the contractor that installed the solar panels. The contractor blames their subcontractor which was doing electrical maintenance on these panels. The city blames the company for not storing refrigeration gases more safely. Everyone blames the city for granting a permit for the warehouse in the first place. Everyone's lawyering up.
Developing...
The contractor will sue the sub-contractor which will take years to decide.
The city will sue the company which will take years to decide.
The residents will sue the company who will sue the contractor who will sue the subcontractor which will take years to decide.
IOWs, the residents are screwed no matter what happens.
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Re: LA warehouse catches fire
You are right, of course. A year and a half later, they're just still getting started on litigating the Palisades Fire. It's always the victims who lose out in the end. Nobody really wins one of these catastrophes except lawyers.
Actually, in the case of this year's disaster, it's shaping up that the city will sue the warehouse owner. The warehouse owner will sue the solar subcontractor, and the solar subcontractor will sue the solar contractor. The solar contractor will sue everybody. That leaves the issue of the ammonia leak, which will undoubtedly result in more suits and countersuits. Then all the various citizen's advocacy groups will swoop in and sue the city for permitting the warehouse in a residential area in the first place.
I knew I should have gone to law school instead of majoring in movies.
Actually, in the case of this year's disaster, it's shaping up that the city will sue the warehouse owner. The warehouse owner will sue the solar subcontractor, and the solar subcontractor will sue the solar contractor. The solar contractor will sue everybody. That leaves the issue of the ammonia leak, which will undoubtedly result in more suits and countersuits. Then all the various citizen's advocacy groups will swoop in and sue the city for permitting the warehouse in a residential area in the first place.
I knew I should have gone to law school instead of majoring in movies.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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With the coming of El Nino and the predictions of 110 degree temperatures in Los Angeles, the situation in Boyle Heights promises to worsen dramatically. Tax money will go to save lives when the neighborhood becomes uninhabitable for months. You know who pays for that.
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One week later, nothing has changed. The warehouse owner and the city of LA are trading accusations nightly on the Nooz. Legal briefs are flying back and forth. The state air pollution people slap a new violation notice (with fine) on the company every day. Nothing changes.
The neighborhood adjoining the warehouse is still reeking of rotting food despite weeks of trucks shuttling the mess to whatever disposal site they intend to fill up. It makes people throw up. The weather is unusually hot and getting hotter and it is predicted to stay that way at least until one of the weekly tropical storms makes its way up here in the mother of all El Ninos. Then there will be a flood instead.
The neighborhood adjoining the warehouse is still reeking of rotting food despite weeks of trucks shuttling the mess to whatever disposal site they intend to fill up. It makes people throw up. The weather is unusually hot and getting hotter and it is predicted to stay that way at least until one of the weekly tropical storms makes its way up here in the mother of all El Ninos. Then there will be a flood instead.
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Another week has passed, and the situation remains critical in just about the most tropical summer LA has ever had. Going forward, there are only two possible weather outcomes. Previous such episodes show this. It will either get hotter and stickier until late October, or a tropical storm like the ones Mexico has every year will hit LA. Both outcomes are very bad for anyone living near what's left of the warehouse.
Along with the stink, there is now a massive takeover of the surrounding area by rats and flies.
Fortunately, it's an election year. Local politicians are traipsing through the ruins of the warehouse daily, holding media events. Lawyers are filing suits every day. At this moment, the most likely outcome is that the city will get stuck with the bill for relocating residents for the duration, and you know who will pay for it.
Along with the stink, there is now a massive takeover of the surrounding area by rats and flies.
Fortunately, it's an election year. Local politicians are traipsing through the ruins of the warehouse daily, holding media events. Lawyers are filing suits every day. At this moment, the most likely outcome is that the city will get stuck with the bill for relocating residents for the duration, and you know who will pay for it.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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A group formed by LA County residents who live in unincorporated areas near the warehouse has asked the county to declare a mandatory evacuation. The county says it lacks the legal authority to do so, as the stink and vermin takeover in the worst heat wave in decades is not an immediate threat to human life. Everyone is lawyering up.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
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It's not Tuesday, but things are happening fast.
1. Lineage, the huge logistics company that operates the warehouse, tried to file for a building permit to rebuild the facility. This prompted the mayor, who is running for re-election, to issue an executive order blocking any consideration of such a permit. The mayor cited the fact that they don't seem able to clean up the mess that this one caused, now they want another one on the site.
2. A large rally took place as close to the warehouse as anyone in their right mind wants to get, in which residents waved signs and speakers told various horror stories regarding what's happened to their neighborhood. All news organizations were in attendance, with all personnel masked. Many demonstrators also had masks, since charities have been distributing them for free.
3. A number of years ago, the school board agreed that August (the hottest month of the year in LA) is not a good time to open the schools, since the weather makes it hard to concentrate on education. They pushed it back into mid to late September. Now, for some inexplicable reason, they have put the first day of school back to August 12. In LA, that would be madness in a good year, and this year is about as far from good as that part of LA can get. That's pretty bad. Schools in the area have installed air purifiers in classrooms and most have some kind of air conditioning, so they plan to keep the students inside during recess periods.
4. The city and county continue to fine the warehouse company thousands of dollars per day, for creating a public nuisance that our taxes have to pay for. This has gone on for around a month now. The company undoubtedly writes it off as Force Majeure (a prominent contractual clause that anyone who ever worked on a movie knows only too well).
1. Lineage, the huge logistics company that operates the warehouse, tried to file for a building permit to rebuild the facility. This prompted the mayor, who is running for re-election, to issue an executive order blocking any consideration of such a permit. The mayor cited the fact that they don't seem able to clean up the mess that this one caused, now they want another one on the site.
2. A large rally took place as close to the warehouse as anyone in their right mind wants to get, in which residents waved signs and speakers told various horror stories regarding what's happened to their neighborhood. All news organizations were in attendance, with all personnel masked. Many demonstrators also had masks, since charities have been distributing them for free.
3. A number of years ago, the school board agreed that August (the hottest month of the year in LA) is not a good time to open the schools, since the weather makes it hard to concentrate on education. They pushed it back into mid to late September. Now, for some inexplicable reason, they have put the first day of school back to August 12. In LA, that would be madness in a good year, and this year is about as far from good as that part of LA can get. That's pretty bad. Schools in the area have installed air purifiers in classrooms and most have some kind of air conditioning, so they plan to keep the students inside during recess periods.
4. The city and county continue to fine the warehouse company thousands of dollars per day, for creating a public nuisance that our taxes have to pay for. This has gone on for around a month now. The company undoubtedly writes it off as Force Majeure (a prominent contractual clause that anyone who ever worked on a movie knows only too well).
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Re: LA warehouse catches fire
I did some research on the Lineage company. It turns out that the LA incident is not its first catastrophic fire. They had a bigger one two years ago at a similar facility in WA state. It burned for 60 days, and caused even more massive environmental problems for miles around. The cleanup lasted a year. There was nothing left of the building after the cleanup.
So it turns out that these guys have something of a history.
https://www.dailynews.com/2026/06/21/re ... hts-blaze/
So it turns out that these guys have something of a history.
https://www.dailynews.com/2026/06/21/re ... hts-blaze/
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