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by Toonces
Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:55 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

Ill gotten gains are gains made through crime. New York State DOES NOT REQUIRE a victim for fraud. In fact, I believe it's more than just NYS. The requirements are more stringent for criminal fraud, which this is not. Still, there were victims, as was explained in the Jon Stewart clip (not based on ...
by Toonces
Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:22 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

No, they're talking points, and Fox News and your Facebook friends repeat them as fact. If there must be a victim to have a crime, who were the victims of Hunter Biden's falsification in buying a gun? Falsifying business records are a crime. But then, you've falsified them for years, haven't you? Y...
by Toonces
Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

https://youtu.be/EDMinX6t1Zk?t=340 Let's answer some questions Did Donald Trump break the law? Did Donald Trump gain by breaking the law? Does New York State require a "victim"? Was the penalty related to how much Donald Trump gained by breaking the law? Should a person or a company be re...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:13 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

You have 20 years and you say falsifying business records are okay because there’s no victim. That says everything about your 20 years than any of us need to know. Do you think Joe knows that I've provided links to backup the things I say? I'm not sure he's getting it. Perhaps I'm not explaining it...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:21 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live: Many casualties feared
Replies: 87
Views: 1612

Re: Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live: Many casualties feared

Ain't that the truth, I don't think Donald could even work his dingy properly.
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

I've explained and provided links repeatedly, I cannot hold your hand. If you choose to not do any reading or put in even the most basic of effort, I cannot help you. I also never said it was based on damages, never even suggested it, I don't think I've used the word "damages". It's a pena...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:12 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

*sigh* This is just getting sad. I don't have to show you anything, that's the beauty of knowing the facts. Fact is, Donald broke the law and he's being held accountable. Whether he pays $500M or less, he broke the law. Remember, facts don't care about your feelings. If you want comparable fines for...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:31 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

Hunter Biden isn’t charged with fraud. A crime you allege Trump committed and a crime that requires a victim. Trump may very well be guilty of lying on his financial statement. But that isn’t fraud unless someone relies of that lie and suffers damages. There are no victims in this case. There are n...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:41 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Hello
Replies: 338
Views: 370953

Re: Hello

Time to stop it. And so it shall be... https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/courts-move-bolster-fairness-addressing-judge-shopping Earlier this week, the Judicial Conference, a committee of judges that sets policy for the federal judiciary, announced that it has adopted a new pol...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:37 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

OK, so who was the victim on Hunter Biden lying on his gun purchase? No one was killed by the gun. This is what gets me - you’re SUPPOSED to be a financial professional. You KNOW this is a bullshit argument. We have regulations on the financial markets for a reason. If you’re telling people it’s fi...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:25 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

Ah, we're pivoting from the "unreasonable" argument. So, what you're telling me is that Engoron doesn't know the law. James doesn't know the law New York law does not require a victim for there to be fraud If something went amiss, and the transaction ended up costing the bank money, would ...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:31 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

Trump lied on financial forms and the lenders cosigned those lies. Why haven't the lenders been investigated for further fraud. Were the lenders required to verify Donald's claims? If they're legally required to, then yes, they deserve to likewise be held accountable. Knowing that someone is commit...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:02 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

The lenders may have not done what was necessary, but Donald still lied on legal documents. Donald still committed fraud. Regardless of the outcome, fraud is still fraud even if you don't get to benefit from it. If the lenders participated in the fraud, then they deserve to be charged as well. Fraud...
by Toonces
Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:47 am
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

Unreasonable doesn’t necessarily mean with a reason. Obviously the appeals court thought differently by allowing him to post a lower bond. "Without reason" is literally what unreasonable means. The fine was a product of the actual numbers of the fraud. New York State law says that 100% mu...
by Toonces
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:23 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

Glennfs wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:13 pm Is there even a 1pct chance that any of the judgement or the case was politically motivated
It's theoretically possible, but the Donald camp hasn't disputed any of the numbers. Donald and Alina have whined, but they've not pointed out where Engoron made an error.
by Toonces
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:35 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

The amounts come with a reason, it wasn't a random number he arrived at.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -judgment/
by Toonces
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Embryos vs. live babies
Replies: 2
Views: 87

Re: Embryos vs. live babies

You have to understand that Charlie Kirk is, and I quote here, "a fucking idiot".

I've repeatedly called him The Dumbest Man on Twitter, and he continues to prove the point.
by Toonces
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:09 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?
Replies: 185
Views: 2504

Re: What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

Things only being illegal if there is a victim is dumb. The guy that was out of Kavanaugh's home didn't do anything, because no one was victimized. Hunter didn't victimize anyone. No one complained about being victimized. So, if I were to look back in the threads, I shouldn't see anything about Hunt...
by Toonces
Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:59 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: We need to end gerrymandering - PERIOD.
Replies: 185
Views: 44045

Re: We need to end gerrymandering - PERIOD.

Allowing politicos to decide who gets to vote for them is just stupid.

Yes, you can have non-partisan drawing of election maps. Many other countries have managed to do it. Unless it's one of those "American exceptionalism" things. Everyone can do it, except America.
by Toonces
Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:56 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live: Many casualties feared
Replies: 87
Views: 1612

Re: Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live: Many casualties feared

You've had plenty of times where it was 8-year rule, and the country is still going. Donald is different, though. He has authoritarian tendencies and that can do a lot of damage in a democracy. He's very much a danger. It wouldn't be a long reign because he's likely to lose to Cholesterol at what, r...
by Toonces
Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:31 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live: Many casualties feared
Replies: 87
Views: 1612

Re: Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse live: Many casualties feared

The ship was heavy, though those ships are also pretty heavy not loaded. If you lose power on them, there is absolutely nothing you can do outside of sending out your mayday. I have decided that DEI was involved. Dead Engine Inertia. (or Dying Engine Inertia, it needs to be workshopped) I'd be curio...
by Toonces
Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:29 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: Its Technical
Replies: 535
Views: 947041

Re: Its Technical

Billionaire Jeff Yass May Be The Donor Behind Trump’s TikTok FlipFlop: Here’s What To Know Republican mega donor and billionaire TikTok investor Jeff Yass is speculated to be be the person behind a sudden change of heart that saw Donald Trump oppose banning the Chinese-owned video app despite havin...
by Toonces
Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:24 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: GOP House is a "complete failure"
Replies: 171
Views: 3023

Re: GOP House is a "complete failure"

So, it's a matter that you think that they're not following the law faithfully. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, as you like to say, but I've still not seen any evidence that they are willfully doing things which contravene the law. If you want tougher law, that's up to the legislative br...
by Toonces
Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:22 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: GOP House is a "complete failure"
Replies: 171
Views: 3023

Re: GOP House is a "complete failure"

The parole thing is, in fact, legal and has been since 1952. They are approved to be in the country, and are permitted to come usually because of things like war, civil unrest, and the like. From countries such as Ukraine, Cuba. Or Haiti. Now, if you would like to send Ukrainian women and children b...
by Toonces
Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Topic: GOP House is a "complete failure"
Replies: 171
Views: 3023

Re: GOP House is a "complete failure"

Still wondering just what, specific, laws the Biden Administration has been failing to follow.

Also, why Republicans don't bear any responsibility.